**** ETNI on the web http://www.etni.org.il http://www.etni.org **** In the waning moments of Tisha B'Av, I hope to say the last words on the Native Speaker controversy, which in my opinion has wandered quite far from its innocent origins. There is clearly no one definition of what makes an excellent English teacher, and language proficiency at Native Speaker level may or may not be an element. I think a sore spot was hit in both native and non-native teachers of English and that must be the reason for the volume of defenses of each position. In the spirit of the day when the temple fell because of a lack of understanding, empathy and love, what do you say we learn something from history and give it a rest. With hope for good times of working together and helping each other on ETNI, I am Lisa Harvith ##### To send a message to the ETNI list email: etni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ##### ##### Send queries and questions to: ask@xxxxxxxx #####