[etni] Re: Vital Question about CDs

  • From: Dina Rosenfeld <denro@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: etni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 16:45:01 +0200


You are definitely right about this "little" problem.
NOT all CD players read home made CDs whether copied from originals
or home-recorded, AND not all those that do read burned discs read all formats.



At 12:15 10/10/2009, you wrote:
>Greetings, all,
>
>Sharon, first of all I want to thank you for taking the initiative 
>on the CD issue and finding one of the "right people" with whom to talk.
>
>I'm pleased to hear that people in the MOE, including Judy Steiner, 
>are trying to cope with these technological questions.
>
>Did you deal with the technical problems of preparing the students 
>before the day of the Bagrut (during matkonot and in-class 
>practice)? I have heard, and have experienced, that some (many?) 
>inexpensive CD players do not read home-made CDs copied from originals.
>
>Has anyone else experienced this problem?
>
>If, indeed it is a problem, we are going to face a major problem in 
>preparing our students for this new way of testing.
>
>Jimmy
>
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Sharon Tzur - sharontzu5@xxxxxxx
>Subject: CD and tapes clarification
>
>Some clarifications:
>
>First, unless we hear otherwise, CD disks are the only media that will be
>sent this winter. I suggest we inform our students. I'd like to think that
>at last minute we'll be offered an option of tapes as well, but I highly
>doubt it. The numbers are mind-boggling. Mr. HaLevi told me that the
>ministry needs to supply over 40,000 of the given media. (I don't know if
>the numbers he gave me were for summer or winter - but it's a lot.
>
>Much as we'd like to help them, it is their responsibility and that of their
>parents. I think that one can find cheap CD players (apparently, it doesn't
>have to be a diskman) - and there are students who have CD players at home
>that they can bring.
>
>Someone wrote to me that they thinking of having  kids use a CD drive of a
>computer. That is NOT an option - there are too many other resources that
>kids can access on a computer.
>
>Secondly, some people writing to the list thought that the Ministry should
>handling this issue and not a volunteer teacher (though people have
>expressed appreciation of my efforts). The Ministry - i.e. - Judy Steiner -
>IS involved. There is a committee working on the issue and Judy is on the
>committee. The reason Mr. HaLevi called me is because I asked him if I (and
>perhaps other teachers who are interested) could use MP3 players with my own
>students this winter as a trial run for using MP3s. I figured that on the
>day of the exam, 20 minutes before the exam, I could open the envelope, and
>change the CD files to MP3 files and then load them on to my students' MP3
>players. I have about 5 students doing F with HaKraat Sheilon this winter,
>so the numbers aren't so daunting. If course, I would do a few trial runs
>this semester.
>
>Mr. HaLevi  was not against the idea, but wasn't sure if I should take upon
>myself such responsibility just to save a few students from bringing (or
>even buying) CD players - and I think he has a good point. As I wrote
>before, I was pleased to see that the people involved are thinking of all
>the various problems involved. Perhaps I was able to give him so more
>input - as a teacher in the field.
>
>
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