[etni] Re: getting around the school grade- Bagrut
- From: Motti <motti46@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: maxinetz <maxinetz@xxxxxxx>, etni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 21:50:32 +0300
The point is that the Bagrut exams should include everything we do in the
English lessons: grammar, literature, literary analysis, language etc. This
would make the students study more and realize that if they don't show up to
classes they won't be ready for the exam.
English is the only school subject in which students are not tested on what the
ministry requires them to study during the lessons. In my view the major part
of the English exam is more like an intelligence test rather than a test that
reflects any mastery of the language.
M. Mendelkern
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From: maxinetz
To: motti46@xxxxxxxxxxxx ; etni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 7:41 PM
Subject: RE: [etni] Re: getting around the school grade- Bagrut
So what's your point, Mordechai? Not to give school grades? To give
artificially high school grades? Not to have the Bagrut exam? It's hard
to understand what exactly you're trying to say here.
Maxine Tsvaigrach
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Of Motti
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 5:00 PM
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Subject: [etni] Re: getting around the school grade- Bagrut
One of our students failed to show up for the Module G test. We thought he
had overslept or forgotten about it. However, when I saw him this morning and
asked him what happened, his answer was : Why should I do it? The teacher gave
me a low school grade and I know I can do a lot better without it. So I decided
not to show up and do the test without the school grade.
One day we may wake up to see many students do the same and maybe skip
English classes altogether.
Mordechai Mendelkern
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From: laurie ornstein
To: Ask_Etni ; etni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 10:52 AM
Subject: [etni] getting around the school grade- Bagrut
Hi All,
I know this issue was discussed this semester but as we faced Bagrut
day, it's resurfaced.
Why bother doing projects, book report portfolios, literature and all
the "extras" when you get around it? I'm a stickler for doing all the required
work and using the NBA formula to calculate grades. This year a significant
number of pupils in my school figured out that it wasn't worth their while to
do all their assignments above since they can "disappear" their school grade
after taking the exam once and redoing it as an external pupil afterwards and
get a grade on the exam only. So this is what they've done. It's the first time
in all my teaching years I've had a long list of failures, mostly due to the
fact that the kids decided not to invest in doing "unnecessary" work. Needless
to say, I spoke with them begged and pleaded....
Your conclusions?!
Laurie - a frustrated worn-out teacher
PS Ruth's words - you said it!
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