Hi, ETNIers Although I am a native speaker of English and do try to keep up with the changes in the language, I realize that there are some trends which pass me by. I corrected an Israeli youth who said "five and a half" to mean the time "5:30"; I told him that the correct expressions are "five-thirty", " half past five", and sometimes "half six". However, the Israeli told me that "a lot of Americans say it now." Of course I do not take his word for it, but I cannot dogmatically deny it either. Does anyone know whether: (a) this usage has indeed arisen among native speakers, and (b1) if so, whether it is presently at the stage of (i) common mistake (ii) slang, (iii) accepted usage ? (b2) if not, whether it is a common product of Israeli English? Thanks. David Reid ************************************** ** Join ETNI on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/31737970668/ ** ETNI Blog and Poll http://ask-etni.blogspot.co.il/ ** Etni homepage - http://www.etni.org ** post to ETNI List - etni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** help - ask@xxxxxxxx ***************************************