[gps-talkusers] Re: A day at Disney World using 6 orientation and mobility tools

  • From: "Michael May" <mikemay@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 7 Jul 2013 09:42:44 -0400

John,

I have been to Disney Land a few times in the past couple of years and have
added and updated points. I am sure there are others to add. 

It would be ideal if we could get the Foursquare points into the other
Sendero GPS products. One more thing for the wish lists.

Mike


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Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: A day at Disney World using 6 orientation and
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Mike, I haven't used my apex at disneyland recentlyh. A lot of changes have
occurred in the last couple of years in both parks and down town disney. Are
the user POIS pretty close to being up to date at the Disneyland Resort?
John
At 06:58 AM 7/6/2013, you wrote:
>I took a break from the NFB conference and went to Disney World on 
>Friday. I connected for a bit with a few blind folks but mostly navigated
on my own.
>It was a lot of work! Even with The OnHand with Sense Nav, BlindSquare 
>and Seeing Eye GPS,, oh, and the Disney Audio Guide, I averaged about 1 
>attraction per hour or less.
>
>First, in terms of Disney, the audio guide has no navigation but it 
>does tell you information about venues when you are in their vicinity. 
>I found this at Disney Land as well, it takes a while to get the units 
>working and the staff don't really know how to use them. In this case, 
>the unit that worked at the Epcot Center, did not work in the Magic 
>Kingdom even though I was told it would.
>
>The staff are super helpful but most are not experienced in giving 
>directions or even telling you they are there. I had to depend a lot on 
>sighted directions and it was like pulling teeth to get useful information.
>
>There certainly were lots of Foursquare points around the parks, 
>available in both of the iPhone apps. There was little value to the 
>routing of Seeing Eye GPS since the park streets are only partially in 
>the map database. This means with Blindsquare and Seeing Eye, you use 
>the getting warmer technique to navigate to locations. Since there are 
>not many straight paths, this involves a lot of circuitous walking. 
>Nonetheless, it does work, it just takes a while, not to mention the 
>mobility of dense crowds. I checked into Foursquare in hopes that I 
>might connect with some other blind folks from the convention but that
didn't happen nor did I run across any.
>
>My dog Tank did an incredible job. The disconnect is when I would get 
>to a ride where I couldn't take my dog and they would put him in a 
>cage. One Disney employee would watch the dog while another would guide 
>me to the ride and back. Didn't seem like an ideal system but at least 
>they had a way of making it work. I did bring a cane for this 
>situation. I was glad to have the dog for mobility in the crowds and to 
>find the openings in the winding roads and building arches. I could not
have accomplished this with a cane.
>
>The OnHand was my strongest tool, simply because of the volume of noise 
>and the fact that I needed my ears for mobility. I used the Braille 
>display to track the getting warmer destination. It didn't have all the 
>foursquare points so that was the down side. I added about 15 points, which
are now in
>the orientation and mobility tools      e collective user database,
>available for your download. Having the Braille display was wonderful.
>
>I did record a replay while on Space Mountain. Not sure how well it 
>worked because I assume the GPS would be lost while in the heart of the 
>mountain. I did try to keep my hand on the display while flying through 
>the tunnels but it was not possible most of the time.
>
>I am always interested in the strengths and weaknesses of the various 
>devices and this was certainly an opportunity to compare. They all have 
>their benefits. It certainly taxed my brain to operate 4 devices and to 
>deal with mobility and intense crowds and noise. I was exhausted by the 
>time I got back to the hotel. I should make you tired just hearing this
story.
>
>Bottom line, I'd recommend going to Disney World or Land with a sighted 
>person and perhaps one navigation device. It is too bad the Disney 
>audio device doesn't have a navigation component or that the Disney 
>content isn't stored in our user POI database, something we certainly 
>could do. We have marked almost all the attractions in the Disney Land 
>parks and now we have
>15 in Disney World.
>
>Michael May, CEO
>Sendero Group, Davis California
>Developers of accessible GPS
>Sendero Phone: 888-757-6810, extension 101 Home Office: 530-757-6900
>Email: MikeMay@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Sendero web: http://www.senderogroup.com General GPS web: 
>http://www.AccessibleGPS.com Mike May Personal: 
>http://www.CrashingThrough.com
>
>
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