[gps-talkusers] Re: POIs in Europe

  • From: "David" <shotgun@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 10 May 2006 14:17:21 -0700

Carol, I don't work for Sendero but here are a couple of my observations. I too was initially disappointed in the maps, even here in America. I thought that if I set the thing up and went outside and stood in front of my house it would tell me what address I was in front of, but it did not. It told me I was two blocks away. Short blocks, and small insignificant streets, but still, I did not understand. I have since learned how to compensate for it. I don't think any maps would list every address, but what you can do is go to an address and set it as a POI. The next time you'll be able to find it easily, maybe not by the address, but by what ever you name the POI.

I have found this to be the greatest thing about Sendero's product and feel that because of it I will never be lost again. It is not a miracle, but it's a pretty good tool, and a heck of a lot of fun.

Have fun playing with it, I know you'll come to enjoy it!

Dave

taxation WITH representation isn't so hot, either!

----- Original Message ----- From: "Carol Pearson" <carol.pearson@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 12:47 PM
Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: POIs in Europe



I understand your position, but it leaves us very much "third class citizens". I would just point out that we're now paying the best part of 1K pounds over here for the GPS and I for one had expected better maps and certainly many more up-to-date POIS. How do we progress this matter? For example, who will correct those maps to include the places I have mentioned? Who should I be writing to?

Thanks for any further advice you can give on this one.


-- Carol carol.pearson@xxxxxxxxxxxx




----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles La Pierre" <lapierre@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 8:08 PM
Subject: [gps-talkusers] POIs in Europe



Hi Carol,

You are not doing anything wrong, the problem is we do not have extensive POI's for Europe.

It took us over 4 years to negotiate a deal to get from a few hundred thousand POI's for the USA and Canada to what we have now which is over 12 million. Sendero has to license the POI database from a third party vendor and we have yet to find a company willing to license their POI data for Europe which doesn't cost us hundreds of thousands of dollars, which we would then have to pass onto you, and instead of a GPS solution costing around $1500 we would have something over $5000, and every POI/Map update instead of costing under $200 would be over $2000. So you can see why we have yet to make a deal for a more complete POI database for Europe. The POIs we have are given to us by our map company as part of the cost of the European maps.

That being said, we are looking into possibly getting richer POI data for Europe and if anyone knows any company which has this kind of data please pass along that information to Sendero.

Thanks.
Charles LaPierre CTO
Sendero Group


At 11:49 AM 5/10/2006, you wrote:
Hmmm!  Thanks, Charles.

OK, here are a few initial observations here in the UK. (Please bear in mind how little experience I have had so far and I am not looking to blame anything or anything but merely to explain how I'm seeing things, most probably through very tinted specs or something!)

First, I see that some houses (including ours) does not have a recognised number. (We concluded, when first testing the GPS that this could be because the bungalow itself is packed into a sort of corner, as the road bends, and the building is therefore slightly away from the road.)

I walked through the town centre yesterday, making use of the "look around" feature in a situation I knew well enough, to see just what I got! As I walked along the general pedestrian area I noted I was made aware of numbers along a side road that were often picked up as opposed to the numbers on the main street along which I was walking. I found this quite confusing to begin with. I remember, some considerable years ago now, this pedestrian walkway was in fact just a main street and has therefore been altered. It did make me wonder if this had any bearing on what I was experiencing, but until I have tried out more town centres I cannot be sure or comment further.

In my locality (within four miles) I have looked up one very well-known hotel, opened in 1983. It was first called The Ramada Hotel (being part of the Ramada Jarvis group), and for the past five years it has been the Renaissance Hotel. I cannot find it listed. In addition I have looked up two addresses, one of which may have been given to me incorrectly, but neither have been found. One is in Kitwood Drive and the other was given to me as Stilton Close, but I accept it could be Stirling Close which I have located.

In addition to the above, when searching POIS, using the "All" category, I can find only 1 McDonald's within five miles of my home. I know of three! It seems the POIS listed are very few (relatively speaking). I notice too that "American" terms, such as "Veterinarian" are used. If you don't mean "Veterinary Surgeon" here then please explain to the uninitiated and, BTW, I don't find any listed!

What am I doing wrong here?



----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles La Pierre" <lapierre@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 6:06 PM
Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: MAPS CURRENTLY IN USE



All our maps are from the same company TeleAtlas.
All our 3.5 maps were updated all at the same time. All maps are version 2005.2 GDF TeleAtlas maps. TeleAtlas released the 2005.2 maps in January of 2006, and Telcontar our map engine company released the filter for the 2005.2 maps on February 22 of 2006, and we started testing the new maps a week or so later, and released GPS 3.5 with new maps 48 days later, not too bad!


Charles.

At 07:29 AM 5/10/2006, you wrote:
Hi all,

As some of you have gathered by now, I'm a pretty new user with the GPS 3.5, beginning to make some inroads (no pun intended) into my learning curve now and get some useful information from my GPS. I feel I need to do a little more checking up with some things before making comments about the seeming inaccuracy (out of date) senarios with my local maps but would like to know at this time, first, which company produces the maps and when were the British ones updated? I realise that User POIS in these situations can really help and I'm beginning to use them now to my advantage.


-- Carol

carol.pearson@xxxxxxxxxxxx


Charles M. La Pierre CTO Sendero Group, LLC

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