I think that development of any product, even software is very similar to composing any form of document, even pieces such as a research paper. There are a variety of stages, which are as follows: First, we must determine a topic, create some form of outline or web that outlines what may be discussed. This is similar to when companies go through their Trac' and run through known bugs, feature request and newly generated ideas and determine what may be included, how long will it take and what the productt will be called. For example, Sendero could have called this product 4.3 or even 4.5 but I am pretty sure optedd for 5.0 because it has been a huge step forward. And, I am sure that there are many other generated ideas that now have been trac'ed as faeture request as well as existing feature request that have been saved for a future version. For example, the reworking of the Address Lookup to allow zip/postal code search, alphanumeric entry in the Address Number field among many other things. Second, we must create a rough draft of how we think our paper should come out, including as many ideas as possible. It is very possible to have spelling errors, grammar errors and there may still be room to add more content. This is similar to Alphas, where it is possible to have useability issues, user interface issues and plans of including more features. Third, we mmust request for a series of reads for all aspects, such as content, organization, spelling, sentence structure and many other aspects while continuing to add content. This is similar to requesting for a series of testers (Alphas and Beta Testers) to test the product on all aspects, such as useability, user interface and many other aspects. Fourth, there is the revision stage, where the author takes all suggestions, comments and feedback provided and encorporates them into drafts with the goal of a final draft. This is similar to when the programmer makes different Builds, such as Alpha 20, Beta 10 or Build150 with the goal of freezing the code after so many builds. Finally, there is the final draft and when all said and submitted, there may be still things that the professor may find that you wish you caught during the series of reads, readers and revisions. This is very similar to the final version, such as Build 208 for GPS 5.0, which can be found out by using the Information Center under the About GPS item. Even after the final product of 5.0, there may be still issues that the end-user may find that Charles wishes would have been caught during the many Alphas, Betas and Release Candidates. Thanks, Kevin -----Original Message----- From: gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of George B Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 10:09 AM To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: [SenderoBeta] Re: Where are the DC Metro Stations Yes but if your beta testers were on top of it it would have been found before a person who paid for it did > -----Original Message----- > From: gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gps-talkusers- > bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kevin Chao > Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 10:06 > To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: [SenderoBeta] Re: Where are the DC Metro > Stations > > This shows how well Sendero Group llistens to the end-users. Within > five hours of the issue being reported, Charles was able to find the > issue and quickly resolve it. Sendero Group is one of the best > companies that I know of when looking at companies who are user > centric and are responsive. And, it goes to show that even after ten > months of development and countless hours of rigorous testing during > the Alpha and Beta cycles that not everything is caught. However, I > think that it is more than safe to say that "most" of the bugs are > caught, taken care of or noted for a future version. > > Thanks, > > Kevin > >> From: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >> [mailto gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > ] On Behalf Of Charles LaPierre > >> Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 9:11 AM > >> To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >> Subject: [SenderoBeta] Re: [gps-talkusers] Where are the DC Metro > >> Stations > >> > >> > >> Hello Judy, > >> > >> Well you get the prize for finding the first bug! New POIs were > >> generated over the weekend prior to launch and Washington DC's POIs > >> didn't get updated unfortunately. I have fixed the problem and > there is > >> now a new Washington_DC-2008.zip file with the updated POI files. > >> I have also updated the region 7USA_MidAtlantic.zip which also > contains > >> Washington DC. > >> > >> Please go and redownload Washington DC and this will fix your issue > with > >> no railway stations in DC. > >> > >> Sorry for the inconvenience. > >> Charles LaPierre > >> > >> At 04:02 AM 10/23/2008, you wrote: > >>>Hello, > >>> > >>>Last night I used version 5.0 in downtown Washington DC. I search > for > >>>a metro station under travel/transportation then railway station > >>>but > I > >>>could find no metro stations in DC. If I searched far enough the > metro > >> > >>>stations in Virginia appeared but none of the DC ones were there. > Are > >>>they somewhere else? They used to be in 4.0. > >>> > >>>Thanks for your help. > >>> > >>>Judy > >>> > >>> > >> > >> Charles M. La Pierre > >> CTO Sendero Group > >> "The GPS company." 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