[gps-talkusers] e: Re: FW: [Loadstone] ESA's most advanced navigation satellite launchedtonight

  • From: jim gammon <jgammon1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 22:36:36 -0700

Wow that's way cool.
now all I have to do is get over to Europe! Thanks, Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Granados" <gsgranados@xxxxxxxxxxx
To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date sent: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 21:17:23 -0700
Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: FW: [Loadstone] ESA's most advanced
navigation satellite launchedtonight

No, the Euro and American systems are interoperable. (remember
we're all
Nato members and this has everything to do with defense
interoperability)
The receivers support the different systems so you wouldn't need
to swap out
your hardware. Don't think of these as competing systems so much
as systems
for their respective regions. It's just a little more comforting
for the
Europeans to use a European spec system in their region and a US
in ours but
they play nice.:) Also note the receivers you see, including the
M1000,
support WAAS and EGNOS already and they stamp that on the box.
You
shouldn't need to replace anything.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Gammon" <jgammon1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 9:06 PM
Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: FW: [Loadstone] ESA's most advanced
navigation
satellite launchedtonight


Hi Scott, abut the EU system uses different sattelite
frequencies so we
would have to have a different receiver to use their system
right?  Seems
like there wouldn't be an advantage to their system from what
you say.
Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Granados" <gsgranados@xxxxxxxxxxx
To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 10:05 AM
Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: FW: [Loadstone] ESA's most advanced
navigation satellite launchedtonight


Your Receiver already supports this. The M1000 supports
correction out
of the box. While we call the system WAAS and the folks in
Europe EGNOS
the technologies are basically the same. I believe Mike has
mentioned
that even though the Sendero products report WAAS correction, in
fact
WAAS is the same indicator when EGNOS is detected as well.
(they are
able to be interchanged)
Also, the article has an error near as I can tell. It
mentions that
EGNOS is better than GPS, that's an apples and oranges
comparison.  GPS
is the over lying technology and EGNOS is a correction system
that makes
for a better GPS experience. Think of it as a Modem may use a
suite of
protocols to create the actual connection but MNP does the error
correction, the MNP doesn't carry the traffic itself it's just a
part or
subset of a larger collection of protocols.

HTH



----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Gammon" <jgammon1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2008 9:08 PM
Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: FW: [Loadstone] ESA's most advanced
navigation satellite launchedtonight


Hi Kevin, so does that mean that someday we can get a Holux
receiver
that will pick up the Euro system? Sounds better than what we
have now.
See pasted below, from the bottom of the online article on their
system:
a joint programme being carried out by the European Space
Agency, the
European Commission
and Eurocontrol. It comprises a network of more than forty
elements all
over Europe
that collect, record, correct and improve data from the US
Global
Positioning System.
The modified signals are then relayed via geostationary
satellites to
user terminals,
offering positional accuracy better than two metres, compared
with 15 to
20 metres
for GPS alone. In addition, EGNOS provides a guarantee of
signal quality
that GPS
does not.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Kevin Chao" <kevinchao89@xxxxxxxxx
To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2008 10:39 PM
Subject: [gps-talkusers] FW: [Loadstone] ESA's most advanced
navigation
satellite launchedtonight


Here is a bit of an update of EGNOS and the Galileo global
navigation
satellite system.

Below is a message from the LoadStone list and in that message
is a
link to
the full article.

Kevin

-----Original Message-----
From: loadstone-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:loadstone-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rob
Melchers
Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2008 10:04 PM
To: loadstone@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [Loadstone] ESA's most advanced navigation satellite
launchedtonight

ESA's most advanced navigation satellite launched tonight
27 April 2008
ESA PR 25-2008 A further step towards the deployment of Europe's
Galileo
global navigation satellite system was taken tonight, with the
successful
launch of ESA's second Galileo In-Orbit Validation Element
(GIOVE-B)
satellite, carrying the most accurate atomic clock ever flown
into
space.

http://www.esa.int/esaCP/SEM9GD2QGFF_index_0.html

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