Scot No way is there a good line of jokes. Any good line of jokes automatically isn't if you see what I mean! Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Granados" <gsgranados@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2008 4:17 PM Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: e: Re: e: Re: Mini Guide It's probably a little motor spinning a wheel thingy (that's a technical term). ;) Been a while since I've cracked open a cell phone but I remember there's a small unit that just vibrates. You could probably just grab an old phone and unsolder the broken device and replace it with a spare. I'm sure there's a good line of jokes that could be had concerning vibrators and their sourcing / uses but I'll leave that for another list. ;) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steven Bingham" <steven.bingham1@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2008 8:09 AM Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: e: Re: e: Re: Mini Guide >I have been using my Mini Guide for over two years and have not had to > replace the vibration unit. I think it is one of those things they have > put > in the manual to save anyone sending it back to the manufacturers I do not > think it is a serious problem. The manual indicates that it is a unit that > is in regular use in mobile phones so it should not be too expensive - > although I do not have a clue what the price would be. > > Steve > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Karen Bailey" <karenb74@xxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2008 6:58 AM > Subject: [gps-talkusers] e: Re: e: Re: Mini Guide > > > Unfortunately, I cannot answer this question as I just got my > miniguide in November. So far so good. I had modifications done > on an old Mowat sensor, but that's different. I should ask about > this, first time I have heard that. Too bad, but everything > wears you know, must get maintenance. I think may be so because > if you use a lot in the city then you would have to maintain it. > I had an experience with my x still think we should have sent > back to the company but we had no cash. He got into a cab, with > a laser cane, and the driver slammed the door on the cane > breaking it. We ended up just chucking it because of no cash. A > shame with such an expensive device. If you find the answer > about how much it is to replace the vibration unit, let me know. > Karen and Harpo > >> ----- Original Message ----- >>From: "jason smith" <thisisjj@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>Date sent: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 13:55:22 +1000 >>Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: e: Re: Mini Guide > >>Hi Karen, >>I am glad this discussion of the miniguide has come up, as I am > currently >>looking into possibly getting one. I have been debating between > looking at >>getting the miniguide, or the ultracane. The ultracane uses the > same >>principles as the miniguide, but is twice the price I believe. > One advantage >>of the ultracane, is that you can keep your other hand free, as > the >>vibrating information, is built into the handle of a standard > cane. As >>someone who has broken two canes in one day before, through > people tripping >>over it in a crowd, I am cautious about spending so much money, > incase the >>same happens again. The miniguide therefore, may be a better > alternative. >>There are demonstration podcasts on both the miniguide and > ultracane on >>www.blindcooltech.com if anyone is interested. A question though > please >>Karen. In the podcast on the miniguide, it is mentioned that the > vibration >>unit will need to be replaced from time-to-time. In your > experience, how >>often is this and is it very costly? >>thanks a lot and best wishes Jason >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Karen Bailey" <karenb74@xxxxxxxxxxx >>To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2008 12:09 AM >>Subject: [gps-talkusers] e: Re: Mini Guide > > >>> Hi, the Miniguide is very useful, and, I have used it while > standing in >>> line to tell when people move up and how far. Karen > >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>From: "Scott Granados" <gsgranados@xxxxxxxxxxx >>>>To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>Date sent: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 06:03:22 -0700 >>>>Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: Mini Guide > >>>>Is it actually useful? Do you think it would be valuable in real >>> world >>>>settings? I'd thinking finding lines and managing distance / >>> standing in >>>>line would be easier with a device like that. > >>>>----- Original Message ----- >>>>From: "Wendy Slominsky" <wendyslominsky@xxxxxxxxxxx >>>>To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 5:38 PM >>>>Subject: [gps-talkusers] Mini Guide > > > >>>>>>again, go to www.senderogroup.com > >>>>> There is a link for the mini guide there. It is small, about >>> the size of a >>>>> Milky way bar, but it doesn't melt in your hand. It has a strap >>> so I have >>>>> it hooked around the handle of my PK and I just grab it and turn >>> it on >>>>> when I want to use it. I can not describe the technology >>> accurately, but >>>>> it is a laser beam, I believe, that vibrates when it detects an >>> object. As >>>>> you get closer the vibration is stronger and more constant. You >>> can set it >>>>> for three different settings be pending on how close up you want >>> it to try >>>>> and detect objects. You hold it with the two round detectors >>> one on top of >>>>> the other so it covers a range of something that is an up and >>> down >>>>> obstacle such as a pole. With a thumb you can turn it on and >>> off and allow >>>>> it to hang unused again until you might want it for something >>> else. I have >>>>> played with it in stores and if you move a bit slowly and put it >>> on the >>>>> most sensitive setting you can actually walk around a store >>> without >>>>> walking into anything. you just try to avoid the areas where >>> there is a >>>>> strong vibration. Conversely, if you are looking to find >>> something you >>>>> walk closer and closer to the vibration. When you have a strong >>> signal you >>>>> know you are close and you can move the unit from side to side >>> just a inch >>>>> or so and that will target your approach very precisely. >>>>> It takes about an hour or so to play with and get a feel for but >>> after >>>>> that it is very easy to use and takes no talent. > > >>>>>>Hi, what is a mini guide? I never heard of it. Where do you get >>> one of >>>>>>these. Andy > >>>>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>>>From: gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>[mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Karen >>> Bailey >>>>>>Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 8:23 PM >>>>>>To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>Subject: [gps-talkusers] e: better mobility technology was Re: e: >>> Lack >>>>>>of Traffic Lights > > >>>>>>Hi, if anyone finds out about new mobility tech, I am always >>>>>>interested. Contact me if you know anything about upcoming >>>>>>technology. Karen and Harpo > >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>From: "Scott Granados" <gsgranados@xxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>Date sent: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 15:59:48 -0700 >>>>>>>Subject: [gps-talkusers] better mobility technology was Re: e: >>>>>>Lack of Traffic Lights > >>>>>>>That brings up a question. Is there a good resource for finding >>>>>>out the >>>>>>>latest available in mobility technology? I'm wondering what's >>>>>>out there or >>>>>>>in the works. It just seems that there has to be a better way of >>>>>>navigating >>>>>>>other than swinging a pole around or putting your trust in lower >>>>>>mammals. >>>>>>>(especially for more distant range finding etc) Any pointers >>>>>>would be >>>>>>>appreciated. Anyone with experience using something other than a >>>>>>cane or >>>>>>>dog who wishes to contact me off list as I'm sure this is off >>>>>>topic would >>>>>>>also be appreciated. > >>>>>>>Thanks >>>>>>>Scott > > > > >>>>>>>----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>From: "Karen Bailey" <karenb74@xxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 3:52 PM >>>>>>>Subject: [gps-talkusers] e: Lack of Traffic Lights > > >>>>>>>> Hi this is Karen and Harpo my guidedog. I found a solution for >>>>>>not >>>>>>>> finding traffic light poles. I use the Miniguide to find >>>>>>traffic light >>>>>>>> poles when there is no other way or point of interest. I have >>>>>>used the >>>>>>>> Mowat sensor in the past for the same thing. It finds things >>>>>>not >>>>>>>> otherwise obvious to a blind person and sometimes scan in front >>>>>>of me for >>>>>>>> construction can feel how high fences are, and where, and other >>>>>>such not >>>>>>>> so obvious items like benches in parks hard to find without >>>>>>sighted >>>>>>>> assist. This may not help you, but I thought I'd mention it. >>>>>>Karen and >>>>>>>> Harpo > >>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>>>From: "Mr. Leslie Paul Peterson" <Les537@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>>>To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>>>Date sent: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 17:39:06 -0500 (CDT) >>>>>>>>>Subject: [gps-talkusers] Lack of Traffic Lights > >>>>>>>>>My teacher taught me GPS lessons today. My first time to learn >>>>>>>> how to destination and route. >>>>>>>>>I am disappointed because GPS does not have the traffic lights >>>>>>>> location. > >>>>>>>>>Route guide me and tell me turn 3 or 9 oclock but I can not go >>>>>>>> across the busy street >>>>>>>>>without the traffic light. I MUST have the lights where I can >>>>>>>> walk across the streets. > >>>>>>>>>How could I command it? Could there make a new version? > >>>>>>>>>Leslie-- > > > > > > > > > > >