[gps-talkusers] Re: enhanced transit stop data for San Francisco

  • From: "Bob Cavanaugh" <bobdavcav@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2015 11:52:57 -0700

Yes, I'd love to see transit info on the iPhone, I'm in the Seattle area and
currently use One Bus Away. One issue I've had with that recently is that I
thought it was supposed to be in real time, yet last week I was going to
school and was wondering where the bus was. After I had been waiting at the
stop for a while and the bus was already 10 minutes late, it said the next
bus was supposed to be there in 20 minutes, no information on when the
obviously late bus was supposed to be there, I thought they had real time
arrival information. It turns out that the busses both ways were about 15
minutes late.



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[mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Michael May
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Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: enhanced transit stop data for San Francisco



There are apps that access realtime bus data. Certainly NextBus is the best
known. They focus on the location of the stop and the time of arrival.



The detailed stop data we are talking about is not available in most cities.
It is possible they have the data but they don't share it.



I believe you will see the San Francisco data available as well on the
iPhone soon too. The tricky part is how to provide the information without
overwhelming the user. I may want to hear 10 things about the stop I am
trying to find but I don't want to hear 10 things about every stop that I
pass.



Mike





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[mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Brent Harding
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Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: enhanced transit stop data for San Francisco



Is there anything somewhat similar out for the iPhone? I'd like to be able
to tell what bus I need to take, the times, and where it gets off without
having to call the transit all the time. It seems hard to get the info from
them at times because they always seem busy and rushed. It seems that the
online trip planner is wrong enough, especially about my home stop, which
affects the rest of the route you would use, and the thing to change the
date isn't accessible with Jaws, one of those read-only boxes with a
calendar graphi underneath.



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From: Michael May <mailto:mikemay@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>

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Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2015 12:21 PM

Subject: [gps-talkusers] enhanced transit stop data for San Francisco



Listers,



We have worked with the San Francisco Lighthouse for the Blind to present
additional features at each of the Muni stops in the city on The
BrailleNote, Braille Sense and Windows PC versions of Sendero GPS and maps.
There are about 2800 stops in the database.



Thus far, the Portland Oregon data has been the only one where lots of
details are presented. We worked with them to do this several years ago.
Now, in San Francisco, you can hear more about the exact location of the
stop, whether there is a bench or a shelter, what is the length of the stop
so you know how many busses may line up there; is it on an island or a curb,
on the surface or underground and what are all the bus numbers stopping at
that location. Even if you don't live in San Francisco, you might want to
check out how this works.



If you had a California San Francisco Muni file already, please delete that
one and download the new one that has Lighthouse/Muni in the file name.

There are around 20 GTFS files list in California alone. If you haven't
checked, see if your city file is in the list. They are sorted by state and
country.



We will also be publishing a short getting started document to help
inexperienced public transit users to understand what all the stop details
mean, nearside, farside, inbound, outbound and so forth.



Thanks to those of you who filled out the survey and those who worked with
us testing the stop data.



Mike















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