Yes, it's technically possible, as I believe the Delorme Street Atlas program has this capability. Whether it's worth all the programming effort that it would entail is another question (and it would not be trivial at all). Chip _____ From: gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of gerry leary Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 7:11 AM To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: map data Is there a way that a package could be developed that would allow people to use any map data that they wanted, and then modify it if they wanted? For example right now in either GPS system if there is a new street created we can label it as a POI or create a string of POIS to follow its root.But we can't actually add it to the map database. Gerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael May" <MikeMay@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 8:04 AM Subject: [gps-talkusers] map data > Jerry, > > There are different levels of map data that the map suppliers offer > vendors. We license the highest quality type they offer. We can't change > the street map data. > > Our added value is in how the data is communicated to the user. 90% of the > verbosity we offer would be of little interest to most sighted users. Mass > market talking GPS products are geared to announce that it is time to turn > but they don't tell you the name of the street or the cross street. You > can't of course use the menus or set a route to begin with. Sendero's > software adds the verbosity a blind user needs. > > Mike > > > > > > At 04:33 AM 3/15/2005, you wrote: >>Hey I am sorry if I spoke in the wrong context. >> >>Both GPS systems for the blind use maps that are commercially produced for >>us and other companies. I do believe that the data is played with for our >>use, so I don't know how useful these maps would be in there original >>condition. >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Richard Myers" <dkmyers28@xxxxxxxxxxx> >>To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 4:14 PM >>Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: the best of all worlds >> >> >> > Hello, Gerry, >> > Please tell us about those commercial maps and how you are able to use >> > them. >> > I still can't get mine to work. My most recent effort has been on the >> > Rand Mcnally Street Finder map CD set. >> > >> > Dick Myers >> > >> > From: "gerry leary" <lgerry3@xxxxxxxxx> >> > Reply-To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> > To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> > Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: the best of all worlds >> > Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 06:32:08 -0700 >> > >> > we already use commercial maps. >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "Catherine Close" <cclose@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> > To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> > Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2005 5:52 PM >> > Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: the best of all worlds >> > >> > >> > > Mike, I appreciate what your company has done with GPS. I regret >> > > that >> > has >> > > to be competition for the small market for such a specialized >> > > product. >> > > I >> > > want a fantasy world where all the best features from everyone's >> > > systems >> > > can >> > > be incorporated in to one super GPS system. I am a person who is >> > > really >> > > interested in GPS but troubled by the available options. I bought >> > > one >> > > of >> > > the BX Pacmates when they came out as I felt this was the most >> > > versatile >> > > and >> > > advanced technology available at the time and the best for work >> > > situations. >> > > However, the GPS for PM remains an unknown quantity. Although GPS is >> > > important, I like the fact that I can use my display separately and >> > > use >> > > commercially available applications. IF the PM option doesn't work I >> > > may >> > > have to think about a unit such as the Trekker. The PK sounds like a >> > nice >> > > little unit, but I can't imagine spending such a large amount for >> > > another >> > > notetaker just to get a smaller GPS. With 70 per cent of the blind >> > > unemployed or unemployed, a low-cost option is really needed which >> > doesn't >> > > have to be replaced often. It would be great if commercial maps >> > > could >> > > be >> > > combined with the best blind-friendly features. In my fantasy more >> > > cooperation and less competition would result in better products, >> > > more >> > > sales, and more satisfied customers. You can tell I didn't major in >> > > Business. Now back to the real world! Cathy >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > Catherine Close >> > > cclose@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> > > >> > > -----Original Message----- >> > > From: gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> > > [mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Michael May >> > > Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2005 12:05 PM >> > > To: GPS-talkusers-freelists.org >> > > Subject: [gps-talkusers] the best of all worlds >> > > >> > > Regarding recent comments about the best of Trekker and BrailleNote >> > > in >> > one >> > > system. I have to say that the one-pound BrailleNote PK with a >> > > Bluetooth >> > > GPS >> > > receiver weighing a couple ounces is amazingly small and the lack of >> > wires >> > > is wonderful. I dare say Trekker weighs more than that altogether. >> > > >> > > Now to the issue of price. If as many blind people or their funding >> > > agencies >> > > bought GPS as purchased a screen reader, the price could probably be >> > > cut >> > > in >> > > half. The blindness market is small and GPS purchases are a small >> > > portion >> > > of >> > > an already small market. In order to have a low priced GPS, it will >> > > have >> > > to >> > > be an off-the-shelf mass market product. In that case, you will have >> > > a >> > low >> > > price but reduced functionality and support. We just need to be >> > > realistic >> > > that there are trade offs between price and functionality. >> > > We can't have our cake and eat it too. >> > > >> > > We are hopeful that with more users out there and more education of >> > > rehab >> > > folks and O&M instructors, the blindness >> > > >> > > GPS market will grow so we can continue to bring you more and more >> > > features and maybe even lower prices. >> > > >> > > Several of us from Sendero monitor this list and we take your >> > > suggestions >> > > very seriously. Sendero just past its 5 year anniversary and we are >> > > very >> > > grateful for your customer loyalty. We have come a long way in that >> > > time >> > > and >> > > we look forward to more major strides over the next five years. >> > > >> > > Mike >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > Michael G. 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