[gps-talkusers] Re: map data

  • From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 16:23:59 -0400

Yes, it's technically possible, as I believe the Delorme Street Atlas
program has this capability.  Whether it's worth all the programming
effort that it would entail is another question (and it would not be
trivial at all).

         
         
         
         Chip
         
         
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        From: gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of gerry leary
        Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 7:11 AM
        To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
        Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: map data
        
        

        Is there a way that a package could be developed that would
allow people to 
        use any map data that they wanted, and then modify it if they
wanted?  For 
        example right now in either GPS system if there is a new street
created we 
        can label it as a POI or create a string of POIS to follow its
root.But we 
        can't actually add it to the map database.  Gerry 
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: "Michael May" <MikeMay@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
        To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
        Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 8:04 AM 
        Subject: [gps-talkusers] map data 


        > Jerry, 
        > 
        > There are different levels of map data that the map suppliers
offer 
        > vendors. We license the highest quality type they offer. We
can't change 
        > the street map data. 
        > 
        > Our added value is in how the data is communicated to the
user. 90% of the 
        > verbosity we offer would be of little interest to most sighted
users. Mass 
        > market talking GPS products are geared to announce that it is
time to turn 
        > but they don't tell you the name of the street or the cross
street. You 
        > can't of course use the menus or set a route to begin with.
Sendero's 
        > software adds the verbosity a blind user needs. 
        > 
        > Mike 
        > 
        > 
        > 
        > 
        > 
        > At 04:33 AM 3/15/2005, you wrote: 
        >>Hey I am sorry if I spoke in the wrong context. 
        >> 
        >>Both GPS systems for the blind use maps that are commercially
produced for 
        >>us and other companies.  I do believe that the data is played
with for our 
        >>use, so I don't know how useful these maps would be in there
original 
        >>condition. 
        >>----- Original Message ----- 
        >>From: "Richard Myers" <dkmyers28@xxxxxxxxxxx> 
        >>To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
        >>Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 4:14 PM 
        >>Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: the best of all worlds 
        >> 
        >> 
        >> > Hello, Gerry, 
        >> > Please tell us about those commercial maps and how you are
able to use 
        >> > them. 
        >> >  I still can't get mine to work.  My most recent effort has
been on the 
        >> > Rand Mcnally Street Finder map CD set. 
        >> > 
        >> > Dick Myers 
        >> > 
        >> > From: "gerry leary" <lgerry3@xxxxxxxxx> 
        >> > Reply-To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
        >> > To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
        >> > Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: the best of all worlds 
        >> > Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 06:32:08 -0700 
        >> > 
        >> > we already use commercial maps. 
        >> > ----- Original Message ----- 
        >> > From: "Catherine Close" <cclose@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
        >> > To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
        >> > Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2005 5:52 PM 
        >> > Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: the best of all worlds 
        >> > 
        >> > 
        >> > > Mike, I appreciate what your company has done with GPS.
I regret 
        >> > > that 
        >> > has 
        >> > > to be competition for the small market for such a
specialized 
        >> > > product. 
        >> > > I 
        >> > > want a fantasy world where all the best features from
everyone's 
        >> > > systems 
        >> > > can 
        >> > > be incorporated in to one super GPS system.  I am a
person who is 
        >> > > really 
        >> > > interested in GPS but troubled by the available options.
I bought 
        >> > > one 
        >> > > of 
        >> > > the BX Pacmates when they came out as I felt this was the
most 
        >> > > versatile 
        >> > > and 
        >> > > advanced technology available at the time and the best
for work 
        >> > > situations. 
        >> > > However, the GPS for PM remains an unknown quantity.
Although GPS is 
        >> > > important, I like the fact that I can use my display
separately and 
        >> > > use 
        >> > > commercially available applications.  IF the PM option
doesn't work I 
        >> > > may 
        >> > > have to think about a unit such as the Trekker.  The PK
sounds like a 
        >> > nice 
        >> > > little unit, but I can't imagine spending such a large
amount for 
        >> > > another 
        >> > > notetaker just to get a smaller GPS.  With 70 per cent of
the blind 
        >> > > unemployed or unemployed, a low-cost option is really
needed which 
        >> > doesn't 
        >> > > have to be replaced often.  It would be great if
commercial maps 
        >> > > could 
        >> > > be 
        >> > > combined with the best blind-friendly features.  In my
fantasy more 
        >> > > cooperation and less competition would result in better
products, 
        >> > > more 
        >> > > sales, and more satisfied customers.  You can tell I
didn't major in 
        >> > > Business.  Now back to the real world!  Cathy 
        >> > > 
        >> > > 
        >> > > 
        >> > > Catherine Close 
        >> > > cclose@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
        >> > > 
        >> > > -----Original Message----- 
        >> > > From: gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
        >> > > [mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Michael May 
        >> > > Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2005 12:05 PM 
        >> > > To: GPS-talkusers-freelists.org 
        >> > > Subject: [gps-talkusers] the best of all worlds 
        >> > > 
        >> > > Regarding recent comments about the best of Trekker and
BrailleNote 
        >> > > in 
        >> > one 
        >> > > system. I have to say that the one-pound BrailleNote PK
with a 
        >> > > Bluetooth 
        >> > > GPS 
        >> > > receiver weighing a couple ounces is amazingly small and
the lack of 
        >> > wires 
        >> > > is wonderful. I dare say Trekker weighs more than that
altogether. 
        >> > > 
        >> > > Now to the issue of price. If as many blind people or
their funding 
        >> > > agencies 
        >> > > bought GPS as purchased a screen reader, the price could
probably be 
        >> > > cut 
        >> > > in 
        >> > > half. The blindness market is small and GPS purchases are
a small 
        >> > > portion 
        >> > > of 
        >> > > an already small market. In order to have a low priced
GPS, it will 
        >> > > have 
        >> > > to 
        >> > > be an off-the-shelf mass market product. In that case,
you will have 
        >> > > a 
        >> > low 
        >> > > price but reduced functionality and support. We just need
to be 
        >> > > realistic 
        >> > > that there are trade offs between price and
functionality. 
        >> > > We can't have our cake and eat it too. 
        >> > > 
        >> > > We are hopeful that with more users out there and more
education of 
        >> > > rehab 
        >> > > folks and O&M instructors, the blindness 
        >> > > 
        >> > >  GPS market will grow so we can continue to bring you
more and more 
        >> > > features and maybe even lower prices. 
        >> > > 
        >> > > Several of us from Sendero monitor this list and we take
your 
        >> > > suggestions 
        >> > > very seriously. Sendero just past its 5 year anniversary
and we are 
        >> > > very 
        >> > > grateful for your customer loyalty. We have come a long
way in that 
        >> > > time 
        >> > > and 
        >> > > we look forward to more major strides over the next five
years. 
        >> > > 
        >> > > Mike 
        >> > > 
        >> > > 
        >> > > 
        >> > > Michael G. May 
        >> > > 
        >> > > 
        >> > > CEO Sendero Group 
        >> > > 
        >> > > Developers and distributors of BrailleNote GPS
Distributing 
        >> > > BrailleNote, 
        >> > > VoiceNote, Miniguide, The Tissot Silen-T tactile watch,
Talks cell 
        >> > > phone 
        >> > > software and the ID Mate, bar code reader 
        >> > > 
        >> > > MikeMay@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
        >> > > http://www.SenderoGroup.com 
        >> > > 
        >> > > (1-888-757-6810, Fax (530) 757-6830, Mobile (530)
304-0007 Sendero 
        >> > > Group, 
        >> > > LLC 
        >> > > 1118 Maple Lane, Davis, CA 95616-1723, USA 
        >> > > 
        >> > > Latitude, 38 33 9.239 North 
        >> > > Longitude, 121 45 40.145 West 
        >> > > 
        >> > > 
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        >> > > 
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