Re: [i3] i3wm exit session

  • From: Donald Allen <donaldcallen@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "Discussions/Questions about the i3 window manager" <i3-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2015 07:04:46 -0400

On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 3:39 AM, Jeff Abrahamson <jeff@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

(To be clear and before anyone has a chance to remark on it: that was meant
in support of the OP of the question, not meant as a chastisement of
Michael. Sorry if it read a bit as the latter.)

Yes, it did read that way, pretty clearly. It's good that you realized
it yourself and sent the above.

While I think you are correct that it's unintended behavior -- a bug
-- but not important functionally, I think Michael's response is
perfectly reasonable, as the developer of good software for which we
must all remember he is giving us free of charge. I don't know
Michael, but I have seen indications that he's a busy guy. As someone
who had a 45-year career in software development, I can tell you that
just continuing development of i3 and providing the level of support
he does is a big job. And that's in addition to whatever he does to
earn his living and have a life. So, without trying to speak for him,
I'm guessing his response came from that perspective. It was also a
bit like the old joke about he fellow who says to the doctor "Doctor,
when I do this, it hurts". To which the doctor responded "Don't do
that".

I would also add that we are living in an open source world. Part of
the point of open source is that we can all contribute to the
development of a piece of software. Read or listen to any of Richard
Stallman's descriptions of his issue with a laser printer many years
ago that resulted in his leading us in this direction and you see that
collaboration between users and developers as at the core of the open
source movement. The original poster expressed a concern about a
certain behavior in i3, Michael essentially said "I have more
important things to work on, from which you will benefit, so just
avoid provoking that behavior", and then Tony Crisci suggested a fix
that doesn't require Michael's involvement. This is the way it's
supposed to work. Read the OpenBSD mailing lists. While the tone is
too nasty for my taste, especially when Theo de Raadt gets involved,
he and they have a point: don't complain, send a patch!

/Don Allen


Jeff Abrahamson
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On 5 April 2015 at 09:30, Jeff Abrahamson <jeff@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Wait, that's not a very empathetic response. I agree with you, Michael,
that this isn't a huge problem functionally, but it *looks* ugly and it
*looks* like unintended behavior. And that's reason enough for the OP to
raise the issue, in case no one had noticed.

From there, it's certainly reasonable if you want to say that it's not
your priority to fix. And to invite a patch, whether or not you want to
offer tips on how it might be patched.

Jeff Abrahamson
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On 5 April 2015 at 09:18, Michael Stapelberg <michael@xxxxxxxx> wrote:

What’s the problem with this behavior?

It surely is technically possible to avoid it, but why bother?

On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 12:14 AM, Hector <c1b3rh4ck@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Dear I3wm list ,

Recently I was using my laptop with i3wm, my version is 4.8
(2014-06-15, branch "4.8") I run debian testing, I couldn't say that
I
haven't fallen in love with it,but checking the option to exit from
my current session if I press once, I get the normal message set
by the default configuration, but if I press many times
$mod+Shift+e I get something like in the attached picture.

Is there any way to add some snipe of code to solve it if I press many
times?.

Can anybody confirm this behavior maybe I'm wrong and it just
happend to me.

Best Regards,
Hector.




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Best regards,
Michael




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