[Ilugc] How to make ILUGC list user friendly?
- From: benignbala@xxxxxxxxx (Balachandran Sivakumar)
- Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 10:30:36 +0530
Hi Shrini,
On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 5:38 PM, Shrinivasan T <tshrinivasan at gmail.com>
wrote:
it will be nice if you share your thoughts on how we can improve the
niceness of the list.
I would like to quote what Randal Schwartz[0] mentioned on
perl-beginners list mentioned when people on that list felt that we
should use kind and polite words when dealing with beginners.
<quote>
Here (and on monks and usenet and now StackOverflow), I'm (often)
reacting to bad code. And I make no apologies for saying code is bad or
wrong or illpurposed or a security threat, if that's indeed what it is,
and I also believe that the person who creates such code needs to
understand that in *no* uncertain terms. Softening the blow does nobody
any good there. Weaselwording is counterproductive.
If they don't have a thick skin already, they'd better get one soon, or
they'll be useless as an advanced programmer. Without thick skin, they
won't be able to submit their code for review regardless of how much
their ego is invested in it. And down that path lies security breaches
and thedailywtf.com submissions. I have no tolerance for that. I'm
trying to make the world a better place, one correction at a time. :)
</quote>
I am also linking[1] to the actual thread on nntp.perl.org. The
discussion started on a similar note, when some beginner used a bad
construct and was asked not to use that in a hard manner. The scenario
is much similar here. A lot of beginners ask questions, of course
genuine. But there might be something wrong, or something that would
have been better and hence someone tells that in strict manner. I
don't think there is anything wrong there.
PS: There might be people who "hate" Randal Schwartz. But he is no
doubt a respected perl guy. Let's just look at this comments from that
angle.
[0] - Randal Schwartz -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Randal_L._Schwartz
[1] - Link to the thread from which the quote was taken -
http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.beginners/2011/04/msg116679.html
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Thank you
Balachandran Sivakumar
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