[jawsscripts] Re: A followup Jaws question
- From: "donald williamson" <d.m.williamson@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 11:50:31 -0400
hello I was wondering if you could help me I am looking for scripts for
skype for jaws 64 bit thanks Donald
----- Original Message -----
From: "Doug Lee" <doug.lee@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2009 4:34 AM
Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: A followup Jaws question
> I'm not Paul either, but I'll weigh in as well:
>
> JAWS' permissions to access things are different when it is a service
> versus when it is a user process. As a user process, it can access
> everything you can, as the user, but might not have as much access to
> system-level stuff. As a service, it has system-level access but
> sometimes can't get to things the user can get to. This is my
> understanding anyway, and my explanation for the following
> observations:
>
> 1. Some applications' MSAA trees don't show up properly to JAWS when
> it is a service. I think this is because of interprocess
> communication problems that are complicated when the application, a
> user process, tries to talk to JAWS as a system process.
>
> 2. When JAWS is a user process, it can't read the Windows login
> screen properly, because user processes in general can't get to
> that.
>
> 3. For scripters, the preferred method of creating objects (using the
> CreateObject and CreateObjectEx functions) can vary depending on which
> way JAWS is run, because the two methods JAWS uses have different
> security implications and privilege requirements. I usually use
> CreateObjectEx and tell JAWS to use CoCreateInstance as necessary
> using the second parameter of that function. This seems to work in
> all cases.
>
> I have not seen any problems virtualizing windows, as described by
> Christopher below, in either mode of running JAWS.
>
> On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 03:21:01AM -0500, Christopher Chaltain wrote:
> I find that virtualizing the current window, insert-control-w doesn't
> work unless I have JFW running as a service. I don't think you can
> access the logon screen unless JFW is running as a service. There are
> other differences as well, but I can't recall them off of the top of my
> head. BTW, I'm not Paul.
>
> Geoff Chapman wrote:
>> paul. would you mind elaborating/sharing these real but subtle
>> differences
>> you've found, between running jaws as a service, and not? I'm sure we'd
>> all
>> be interested!
>>
>> Geoff c.----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Paul Magill" <magills@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2009 4:10 PM
>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: A followup Jaws question
>>
>>
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> In the profiles of the icon for your version of Jaws, the target line is
>>> usually the path to the .exe file of that particular version of Jaws.
>>>
>>> i e. the hot key attached to that icon launches the Jaws .exe file,
>>> which
>>>
>> is
>>
>>> *not* Jaws running as a service.
>>>
>>> I have control+alt+F8 as the hot key for version 8, & so on for other
>>> versions.
>>>
>>> I created another desktop icon with the hot key control+alt+J, & the
>>>
>> target
>>
>>> line is:
>>> C:\WINDOWS\system32\net.exe start jfwservice
>>> which starts the version of Jaws which is configured to auto start when
>>>
>> the
>>
>>> system starts.
>>>
>>> I have found subtle, but real differences, between running Jaws as a
>>> service, & running it as just another program.
>>>
>>> Hope this helps,
>>> Paul from Aust
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "GianniP46" <giannip46@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi again,
>>> when you unload and reload jaws, does it start up as a service again?
>>> If
>>> not, Is there a way to have jaws start up as a service when you press
>>> the
>>> assigned keystroke to start jaws? I am wondering if this is part of my
>>> problem with the app becoming invisible sometimes if I restart Jaws.
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> Gian Pedulla GianniP46@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>
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