Please note, Accessibility should not require scripting. If it designed, from day one, with accessibility in mind, it should be accessible without scripting or any special function. Daniel Tang Accessibility Specialist CCIE # 3681 Cisco Systems 170 W. Tasman San Jose, CA 95134 Phone: 408 526 7814 Email: dtang@xxxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 4:47 AM To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Accessibility, Usability and Scripting Hi, If possible, can you please be specific about any issues you are coming up against. That way, we can better help you solve them. While we are being general, I try to separate in my mind which key strokes are JAWS related and which are application related. That helps me figure out whether there is an access problem with the application I am using or whether the scripts for JAWS need to be changed. Thanks. Jim James D Homme, Usability Engineering Highmark Inc. james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx 412-544-1810 "It's more important for me to start to do the right thing than it is to wait until I think I can do it just right." "Kamil" <kamilimak@hotmai l.com> To Sent by: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx jawsscripts-bounc cc e@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject [jawsscripts] Accessibility, 10/01/2007 10:27 Usability and Scripting PM Please respond to jawsscripts@freel ists.org Hi folks, I would like to know your take on a subject which raises hot debats in my workplace and that is how much scripting is really necessary for an application. Based on this business standards, application accessibility means the existance of methods for getting the information on the screen and interact with it. It doesn't take into account, the time it takes to reach to a specific piece of information and the needed energy to filter the unwanted announcements. The JAWS cursor is not only, not assumed the last resort, but also is assumed to be used, as the main tool for static information retrieval, according to this standard. This way, other than applications with graphic components without alternative text, the rest can be catagorized accessible since by using JAWS cursor eventually one can get to any place and if direct keyboard interaction is not possible then keyboard equivalents of mouse clicks can be utilized. The rest falls in the realm of usability. The business believes that it's responsible to provide accessibility as defined above and anything beyond that is just icing on the cake. My approach to this subject, is to see the big picture. Taking into account all the stress, frustration and the time that is getting wasted navigating a not properly laid out screen together with filtering unwanted audio data. This way not only total accessibilty should be provided but a highly usable interface is the winning card. What I mean by highly usable interface, is a kind of intelligent interface for the application which provides such facilities as: Instant anouncement of the value of each field by typing the very first letters of its label Automatic announcement of live data when they change Availability of hotkeys to activate major tasks Suppressing extra announcements I highly appreciate your input. Thanks, Kamil __________ View the list's information and change your settings at http://www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts __________ View the list's information and change your settings at http://www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts