Ok, We're all in agreement then. its just that "announcement" is a weasel word that can be used in many ways. For example, the original email message was an "announcement" of a money making venture directed right at scriptors and not an announcement of publically available information free of charge. In other words a commercial for a product can also be an announcement under this person's personal definition. With all that said, and with clarity established, let's move on. thanks for the clarification E, I now understand the philosophy of the list. Matthew __________ Visit and contribute to The JAWS Script Repository http://jawsscripts.com View the list's information and change your settings at http://www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts