[jawsscripts] JAWS UIA scripting

  • From: John Martyn <johnrobertmartyn@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2014 07:44:00 -0600

The UIA approach is much faster and reliable than legacy scripting 
because of many reasons. If theprogram has custom controls, you can find 
out the bounding rectangle of the item, focus it, invoke menus on it, 
and speak text that is normally not visible to OCR. The elements that 
you can detect is far more than jaws can normally see. You can also 
change the tab order or put things into lists. I belive I made the 
google manage scripts source availble in the download, but I'd be happy 
to share some code that will help in the UIA area. I am building a 
website dedicated to JAWS scripting so you can get code samples for UIA 
scripting. I am just really bogged down in work right now so I'll post 
back within the week for code examples that can make an otherwise 
completely inaccessible program work.
John Martyn
On 9/24/2014 3:58 AM, Geoff Chapman wrote:
> So to guide this one back on topic John, Since I kinda guided it off, :),
> feel like giving us some quick general scripting ideas as to what you were
> able to use the new jaws 15 UIA support to accomplish, that would've been
> more difficult/impossible with older tools?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Andy B." <sonfire11@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 1:19 PM
> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Google music manager now accessible
>
>
>> Google's look-a-like for Spotify if I rmember.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kaveinthran
>> Pulanthran
>> Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 9:31 PM
>> To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Google music manager now accessible
>>
>> hi, bwhat is google music manager used for?
>>
>> On 9/22/14, Dale Leavens <dleavens@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> And blind people seem to think that a google autonomous vehicle will
>>> be of some value to them!
>>>
>>> Dale Leavens.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Geoff Chapman" <gch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 2:09 AM
>>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Google music manager now accessible
>>>
>>>
>>>> Wow John. your certainly a very busy beaver Scripter eh!
>>>> Thanks for allowing us to check out these scripts. I don't have jaws
>>>> 15 myself so can't at this stage.
>>>> But, I notice on your site you mentioned the Login screen is totally
>>>> inaccessible, to the point of needing sighted assistance to even log in!
>>>> Hooly dooly! Is that for real?
>>>> In this day and age, with Ray Kirzwiel hanging around google
>>>> somewhere and everything, How on earth could Google still,
>>>> manufacture an app that had a totally inaccessible login screen to
>>>> the point it needed sighted assistance even to initially utilize the
>>>> jolly thing?
>>>> <sigh>. Microsoft all over again eh. DoubleSigh.
>>>>
>>>> Any thoughts?
>>>> Got any line in to their development cycle on any of their products?
>>>> Including their browser online offering, which lacks some very basic
>>>> keyboard navigation, like being able to click on the 3 circles
>>>> thinggy to the right of the currently playing song, in order to
>>>> actually be taken to the google play store to buy it? even that is
>>>> not accessible from the keyboard!
>>>> crazy crazy people!
>>>> Nor, by the way, is the Play button, to preview tunes on the Google
>>>> play store directly.  The buy button for each tune is a
>>>> normal/accessible button, but, the preview/play button is not, and
>>>> only appears apparently upon mouse hovering over the name of the tune
>>>> you wish to preview.
>>>> just crazy short-sightedness! I've started a case with them about
>>>> this browser-based Music all Access service anywayz, and hope they'll
>>>> do something in their next release, as I'm impressed with it
>>>> functionally compared to the others, in that it allows unlimited skips
>>>> per hour.
>>>> Great
>>>> for tooling through stuff fast when looking for particular things.
>>>>
>>>> Correct me if I'm wrong on this John, but, in case anyone else upon
>>>> the back of John's announcement, wishes to dive into trying the
>>>> Google offering of the associated music subscription service, Google
>>>> play music all Access, -
>>>>
>>>> a
>>>> lovely short marketing name for it eh, - I'm told by google last
>>>> week, that, unlike apparently in Microsoft's latest music
>>>> subscription offering, (which by the way only works under windows
>>>> 8/8.1  apparently,) The google play music all access thing, even with
>>>> google music manager, won't let you download any of the subscription
>>>> music, i.e. stuff  that you haven't actually purchased, to
>>>> organize/play when offline, on your PC .  But, only on your android
>>>> or iDevice or tablet etc.
>>>> That absolutely was not clear to me when trying to ascertain this,
>>>> from their promotional stuff online, which appears of course as if it
>>>> will do everything you could possibly want, and more! rah rah rah!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "John Martyn" <johnrobertmartyn@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>;
>>>> <blindtunesbeta@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <spotifyblindbeta@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>;
>>>> <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2014 4:02 AM
>>>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Google music manager now accessible
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>> I just completed the scripts for the Google music manager. The
>>>>> scripts are free. If you want to manage all your music in the cloud
>>>>> and have your itunes stuff there, you can download the scripts at
>>>>> www.DoItBlind.com Enjoy!
>>>>> John Martyn
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