Geoff!
about how Chrome automatically reads pages on opening you can find
information in the last e-mail arrived yesterday from John Robichaud. He
asked something similar a couple of weeks ago and I answered him. In his
reply you will find my answer, too.
On the other hand, on a webform the error handling is done by the
webpage and not by JAWS! Unfortunatelly if the webprogrammer has no
knowledge in ARIA than the error handling will be inacccessible. If yes,
than it will be perfect. Focus replacements, automatic error
announcements done viea javasccript and ARIA. JAWS can't deal them. If a
webpage is written with no accessiblity in mind, than you can't make it
better with JAWS script.
Chaba
2020. 04. 07. 6:12 keltezéssel, Geoff Chapman írta:
Subject line has my question really, but I've noticed, presumably along with__________�
many of you, that sometimes, Jaws justt seems to capture/autospeak relevant
information on a page when it changes/appears, and other times, it sure
doesn't. this thread prompted me to wanna ask if anyone out here might know
just why that is? I.e. what we might be able to tell site developers to
improve sites, where this doesn't occur? And the blind user is left stumbling
around the site lots to find out what's happening in response to an action
they've just performed?
I've run across this in lots of situations, but I guess most communicably, in
scenarios where one has filled in a form, and hit "submit," and there's been
some error in the form, and the site then attempts to alert the user to the
field that's problematic.
Some sites do a fantastic job of this, not only causing JAWS to autospeak the
error message/problem, but once in a while, (not often mind you), I think
I've even seen focus moved automatically to the problematic field! More often
than not of course though, the user simply assumes there's an error, because
they haven't heard any new page load information, and then has to maybe do a
JAWS find for the word "error", to look for the message manually themselves.
Or arrow down line by line till they find something informative.
And then, the error might simply say that the problematic field is "marked in
red colour", which is obviously not that helpful either, although I realise
we can move through each field, and keep hitting JawsKey+TopRow number 5, to
check the foreground and background colour etc.
I realise this is a tad off topic for a jaws Scripting list, but, ... well
the knowledge up here seems quite astounding, and, the answer would probably
help a lot of us, if there was one that anyone happened to know?
Or, to bring it more back on topic, if there's any scripting functionality
that we can introduce, that may help "catch"/automatically speak, new
important information that the site throws on to the page, that the user
needs to know?
Any thoughts/discussion most welcome anyways.
Regards
Geoff C.
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Thank you Csaba. I've been away from it for a while but this will help.
John
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Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: what function causes a page opening in Chrome to
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HiJohn,
In JCF the following entry can control this behaviour:
[HTML]
SayAllOnDocumentLoad=1
In code, you have to look in default.jss for the following events &
functions:
DocumentLoadedEvent
DoDefaultDocumentLoadActions
ShouldSayAllOnDocumentLoad
The last one is responsible to say all if the above mentioned setting is set
to true.
HTH
Czaba
2020. 02. 19. 21:42 keltezéssel, John Robichaud írta:
I'm trying to determine which Jaws function causes a page opening in__________
Chrome to speak automatically. I'd like to alter that behavior. Can
anyone help here?
John Robichaud
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