[jawsscripts] Problem with Graphics Labeler

  • From: "Geoff Chapman" <gch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2013 02:34:11 +1100

In case this slipped through the cracks, just rePosting....

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Geoff Chapman" <gch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2013 4:41 PM
Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Problem with Graphics Labeler


> Hi Javad.
>
> This might be a longshot here, but, your aware, right?  of this kinda 
> hairy
> issue,  where if you move between graphics with your jaws Cursor, with, 
> say,
> jaws+Right or left arrow, that jaws may initially identify a graphic that
> you've previously labelled, with just an unlabelled graphic number, 
> because
> the mouse yet hasn't quite hovered over it long enough, for that graphic 
> to
> adopt it's MouseOver State, update it's OffScreenModel with that new 
> state,
> and thus acquire the label you've previously assigned to that MouseOver
> state?
>
> You could test this theory, by using jawskey+arrows to move to a graphic
> that you believe you've previously successfully labelled, probably hearing
> it's label not spoken when you do, but then immediately hitting the
> ReadCurrent Word command, jaws+NumPad5, or Jaws+K on Laptop layout.  Now, 
> if
> you find that it does read the label upon your ReadCurrentWord command, 
> but
> it mis-read it when actually moving to it with the jaws+RightArrow 
> command,
> then there's an issue right there! And you know your experiencing the
> phenomena I'm talking about.
>
> This happens because in some situations, graphics actually change their
> state, and thus identification number, when the mouse is hovering over 
> them
> for a given  time, compared to when it's not.
>
> If you do find that this is the missing component to your problem, then 
> the
> solution is, to use the invisible cursor also, to move to each of your
> graphics, and label them once again, using the invisible cursor.
> This should then make them speak properly, as you arrow to them with the
> jaws Cursor. This double-labelling method
> should also provide you better luck at locating them directly,
> using the Control+Jaws+F, jaws Find command,
> (since the FindGraphic function I believe would use the invisible cursor 
> for
> the actual searching function), before routing the jaws cursor to it, if
> found etc.
>
> See if this might be contributing to your problem?
>
> Also, what happens if you refresh the OSM Screen with jaws+Escape,  every
> time your about to look for your graphics?
> Do they all suddently appear?
>
> BTW, did you know about the functionality JawsKey+Control+Shift+G?  Which 
> is
> supposed to bring up a listing of all clickable graphics on the screen?
>
>
> From: "Javad Hoseini" <javad@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2013 7:15 AM
> Subject: [jawsscripts] Problem with Graphics Labeler
>
>
>> Hello
>> I want to make Video Convert Master more accessible. I am trying to label
>> some graphics with Graphics Labeler of JAWS 13, but whenever I label a 
>> new
>> graphic, the previous graphics are no longer read by JAWS. I return to
>> label
>> them again, but the labels seem to be correct. JAWS reads only the last
>> label I have created. It doesn't read the names of the previous labels.
>> What
>> is the reason?
>>
>> Thanks in advance
>> Javad Hoseini
>> انجمن پژوهشي آسيب هاي بينايي (راوي)
>> Research Association for Visual Impairments
>> www.IranRAVI.com
>> Skype: javad2625
>>
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