[jawsscripts] Re: Proper Way to Merge Functions in Default

  • From: Jamal Mazrui <empower@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 15:48:09 -0500 (EST)

Hi Don,
There was, indeed, a bug related to running an executable package from a
folder with embedded spaces in the path.  I think the scripts were still
installed correctly, but the wrong folder was being used for the Keep
Copy, Backup Before Replace, and View Zip Folder options.  Hopefully,
this is now fixed in an update I posted today.

The View option is meant for the folder containing the zip archive,
rather than for the archive itself.  In that way, you can verify that
the backup and keep-copy archives are there.  If files are sorted so the
most recent ones appear first, they should be at the top of the list.

It occurs to me that there is a manual way you could indicate authorship
of the scripts within an executable package you create.  Open the file
C:\jsx\scripts.iss

and edit settings related to the product or publisher names.  This would
be in effect for any script packages you create.  Note, however, that
this file is replaced each time you install JSX.

Thanks for working so constructively with me to eliminate remaining kinks
in JSX.

Jamal

On Sun, 29 Mar 2009,
Donald Marang wrote:

> Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 22:33:29 -0400
> From: Donald Marang <donald.marang@xxxxxxxxx>
> Reply-To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Proper Way to Merge Functions in Default
>
> Hi Jamal,
>
> Exactly, somewhat!
>
> I gave details of locations of the desired directories I was using to
> install with the self installing, executable package that I created,
> uploaded to a website and downloaded to a different directory.  I did this
> to "pretend" I was an end user.  I created the package in JAWS 10 and was
> installing it into JAWS 9.  It behaved the same whether I had JAWS 9 or 10
> running as I was running the self installing package.  I was not running the
> full jsx software.  In fact, to date I have never used the full jsx software
> to install any scripts.  I have been only using the full jsx software to
> generate the self installing executable package.  In all of these messages I
> am describing what happens after I press Enter on the self installing
> executable package, "VerizonCallAssistantScripts0.95.exe", unless explicitly
> noted.
>
> Since I am running Vista, the following directories are used:
> Directory which stores my JAWS 9 user scripts:
> C:\Users\Don\AppData\Roaming\Freedom Scientific\JAWS\9.0\Settings\enu
>
> Directory for my Windows special folder for temporary files: (at least one
> of them)
> C:\Users\Don\AppData\Local\Temp\
>
> I wanted to have the package run from:
> "C:\Data\Web Downloads\New\"
> When I run the package from here, that is when the "Keep copy" (sorry I
> occasionally called this "Save copy" in previous messages) option will
> create a copy  of the zip file in the wrong place.  Instead of placing the
> zip file in the same directory as the executable package, it will be created
> in
> C:\Data
>
> Note there is a space in the folder name "Web Downloads".  I think this is
> part of the problem.  So I ran it from another directory that did not have a
> space anywhere in the pathname.  I ran it from the directory where I created
> the package.  This directory is:
> C:\Users\Don\documents\JAWSScripts\
>
> When I ran the same executable package here with the "Keep copy" checked,
> the zip file was created in that folder as expected.  I'm sorry, I was
> attempting to have a baseline scenario which was not working and provide
> some logical deviations to see what works and what does not work.  I hope I
> am explaining it better this time.
>
> Now that I think of it, perhaps I should follow the mimic a standard user
> idea further and test it from the default Vista location:
> C:\Users\Don\Downloads\
> I was not thinking about permission problems outside my user area.  I don't
> get any permission error messages or any error messages for that matter.  It
> simply does not create the zip file in the expected directory.
>
> As for the second problem about the "View zip folder after" (again sorry for
> not stating this exactly in the previous messages) option, it opens the
> C:\Data
> folder with nothing selected.  I was under the impression that it would open
> the zip archive itself and directly show its contents.
>
> Finally,if I run the installer more than once without cleaning up,with the
> "Backup before replace " (again sorry for not stating this exactly in the
> previous messages) option checked, the installer announces that it is
> creating a backup named, "VerizonCallAssistantScripts0.95_01.zip" and place
> it in the same folder as the executable package along with the "keep copy"
> zip file.
>
> I hope this is more clear.
>
> Don Marang
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jamal Mazrui" <empower@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 9:35 AM
> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Proper Way to Merge Functions in Default
>
>
> > I'm confused because you seem to be saying that Keep Copy is working
> > sometimes for you, but other times not.  You have probably mentioned it,
> > but I have not kept track of which directories you are using for what.
> > Tell me again which directory you are running the executable package
> > from, which directory stores your JAWS user scripts, and which
> > directory is your Wwindows special folder for temporary files.
> >
> > I do not know why jsx.ini would be copied on its own somewhere rather
> > than a zip archive containing jsx.ini and other files.
> >
> > One way to search a drive from a command prompt is as follows.
> >
> > c:
> > cd \
> > dir /b /s MyScriptArchive.zip >c:\temp\temp.txt
> >
> > This logs onto your C drive, changes to its root directory, and then
> > does a dir command with bare and subdirectory parameters, redirecting
> > output to the file temp.txt in the C:\temp directory (that directory
> > must already exist).  The full path of each matching file will be on a
> > line by itself in the output file.  You can use wildcards, too, e.g.,
> > My*.zip.  Case does not matter.
> >
> > At this point, there is no way of specifying the identity of the
> > developer, but I will reflect on how I might add that enhancement.
> >
> > Jamal
> >
> > On Sat,
> > 28 Mar 2009, Donald Marang wrote:
> >
> >> Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 18:58:04 -0400
> >> From: Donald Marang <donald.marang@xxxxxxxxx>
> >> Reply-To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Proper Way to Merge Functions in Default
> >>
> >> Hi Jamal,
> >> Using the previous scenario:
> >> If I check "Save copy", no zip file is created in the "C:\Data\Web
> >> Downloads\New\" directory.  If it creates a file somewhere else on my
> >> system, I have no idea where it might have placed it.  normally I would
> >> search my entire drive, but Vista makes that very difficult for me!  You
> >> would think with search boxes all over the place this would not be so
> >> difficult.  Anyone have a shortcut method to select all files on the C
> >> drive
> >> and ignore index locations?
> >> (While I was proofreading this message, I successfully searched all hard
> >> drives and only found 1 result after emptying the recycle bin, jsx.ini!
> >> So
> >> it was not accidently placed anywhere else.)
> >>
> >> If I run the installer from another location and check the "Save copy"
> >> option, the zip file is created in that directory.
> >>
> >>
> >> If I leave the Make backup checked, the zip file is created in "C:\Data".
> >>
> >> Anytime I check the "view zip file" it will open "C:\Data".
> >>
> >> On a slightly different topic, is there a simple way to add my name and
> >> version number to the comments associated with the generated EXE file?
> >>
> >> Don Marang
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Jamal Mazrui" <empower@xxxxxxxxx>
> >> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2009 9:52 AM
> >> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Proper Way to Merge Functions in Default
> >>
> >>
> >> > Thanks for the specifics that are helpful for debugging.
> >> >
> >> > JSX should use the version of the JAWS script compiler that corresponds
> >> > to the JAWS version that the user chooses in the JSX installer dialog.
> >> > This allows scripts to be recompiled for the JAWS version currently in
> >> > use.
> >> >
> >> > Let me describe how the following things should work.  It would help me
> >> > debug if you can tell me a reproduceable way that something does not
> >> > happen as intended.  The Keep Copy option, only available in a JSX
> >> > executable, should (when checked) copy the zip archive
> >> > contained in the executable into the same folder on the users computer
> >> > that holds the executable that was run.
> >> >
> >> > The View Zip option should open Windows Explorer in that same folder
> >> > (if
> >> > Keep Copy is not checked, I guess it is viewing the executable folder
> >> > only in that case).
> >> >
> >> > The Backup option creates a zip archive of all files that are being
> >> > replaced by the installer in the user script folder.  In the case of an
> >> > executable package, the backup archive should be put in the same folder
> >> > as
> >> > the executable.  If the full JSX is used to install a stand-alone zip
> >> > archive (rather than an executable package), the backup archive should
> >> > be
> >> > put in the same foler as the zip archive from which scripts are being
> >> > installed.
> >> >
> >> > The three checkboxes above should function independently.  For
> >> > debugging,
> >> > it may be worth deleting all backup files and temporary subfolders
> >> > created
> >> > by Inno Setup that perhaps have been left in your Temp folder.  I think
> >> > a
> >> > previous bug caused some of these not to be cleaned up.  Then you can
> >> > be
> >> > more clear about what is being newly created, either appropriately so
> >> > or
> >> > not.
> >> >
> >> > Jamal
> >> >
> >> > On Fri, 27 Mar 2009, Donald
> >> > Marang wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 18:55:07 -0400
> >> >> From: Donald Marang <donald.marang@xxxxxxxxx>
> >> >> Reply-To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >> To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Proper Way to Merge Functions in Default
> >> >>
> >> >> Hi Jamal,
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks for your quick response.  I appreciate you accommodating my
> >> >> desires
> >> >> with jsx!
> >> >>
> >> >> There are no more error messages!  The install and merge always work
> >> >> cleanly
> >> >> now.  The new modification for opening the text file when finished
> >> >> works
> >> >> without a hitch.
> >> >>
> >> >> I am now having an issue with viewing the zip file when finished.  In
> >> >> my
> >> >> scenario, a Windows Explorer window is opened when finished to my
> >> >> "C:\Data"
> >> >> folder with nothing selected.  There is a copy of the zip file
> >> >> unexpectedly
> >> >> placed in this directory!  Evidently, it has been doing this for a
> >> >> while
> >> >> because there were 8 such zip files there, some with _1 and such at
> >> >> the
> >> >> end.
> >> >> I am not sure wither this is related to checking the "Save a copy" or
> >> >> the
> >> >> "Make a backup" checkboxes.  Can you tell me where both of these files
> >> >> should be located in my situation?  Also where should the zip file
> >> >> opened
> >> >> when the "view zip file" be located?  My scenario is as follows:
> >> >> Windows Vista Home Premium
> >> >> jsx installed to:  C:\jsx
> >> >>
> >> >> Scripts packaged from JAWS 10 to:
> >> >> "C:\Users\Don\Documents\JAWS
> >> >> Scripts\VerizonCallAssistantScripts0.95.exe"
> >> >>
> >> >> (note this is a personalized, nonstandard location and there are
> >> >> spaces
> >> >> in
> >> >> this path!)
> >> >>
> >> >> package exe file UpLoaded to
> >> >> http://mysite.verizon.net/marangs/VerizonCallAssistantScripts0.95.exe
> >> >> (my personal ISP web space where I plan to distribute these scripts
> >> >> from
> >> >> the
> >> >> :
> >> >> http://mysite.verizon.net/marangs/VerizonCallAssistant.html webpage)
> >> >>
> >> >> Downloaded to and run from:  "C:\Data\Web
> >> >> Downloads\New\VerizonCallAssistantScripts0.95.exe"
> >> >>
> >> >> (note there are spaces in this path!)
> >> >>
> >> >> file:  VerizonCallAssistantScripts0.95.exe
> >> >> exe association:  VZCallAssistant.exe
> >> >> Self contained scripts (merge radio button not checked!)
> >> >> JAWS 9 and ENU selected
> >> >> recompile scripts selected
> >> >> I have tried various combinations with the following checkboxes:
> >> >> Save a copy
> >> >> Make backup
> >> >> view zip file
> >> >>
> >> >> Sometimes, I have installed to JAWS 9 while running JAWS 10 with
> >> >> recompile
> >> >> selected!  Does that cause any problems?  Does it use the JAWS 9
> >> >> compiler?
> >> >>
> >> >> Sorry for all the long paths and details!  I hope I didn't make any
> >> >> typing
> >> >> errirs.  We probably would have found the previous error sooner if I
> >> >> had
> >> >> not
> >> >> made soo many assumptions.
> >> >> Don Marang
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> >> From: "Jamal Mazrui" <empower@xxxxxxxxx>
> >> >> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> >> Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 12:15 PM
> >> >> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Proper Way to Merge Functions in Default
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> > OK.  I've fixed a couple bugs discovered through that feedback (same
> >> >> > URL
> >> >> > for March 26 version).  A problem is caused by the Merge radio
> >> >> > button
> >> >> > being checked.  The documentation now makes clear that it should not
> >> >> > be
> >> >> > checked for the new merge method, which relies on the comment line
> >> >> > at
> >> >> > the
> >> >> > top of a .jss file instead.  I have also made JSX first look for a
> >> >> > documentation file with the same root name as the zip archive, so
> >> >> > you
> >> >> > can
> >> >> > be sure that file will display if you have multiple .jss files.  Let
> >> >> > me
> >> >> > know your results if you uncheck the merge option before creating
> >> >> > your
> >> >> > executable and if you name your .txt file like your .zip archive.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Jamal
> >> >> > On
> >> >> > Thu, 26 Mar 2009, Donald Marang wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 06:33:08 -0400
> >> >> >> From: Donald Marang <donald.marang@xxxxxxxxx>
> >> >> >> Reply-To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >> >> To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >> >> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Proper Way to Merge Functions in Default
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Thanks!  It runs without errors now!
> >> >> >> Except if I check the "view zip folder" after" checkbox.Then I get
> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> following error:
> >> >> >> --- start of error
> >> >> >> Location is not available
> >> >> >> C:\Users\Don\AppData\Local\Temp\is-85DNL.tmp refers to a location
> >> >> >> that
> >> >> >> is
> >> >> >> unavailable. It
> >> >> >> could be on a hard drive on this computer, or on a network. Check
> >> >> >> to
> >> >> >> make
> >> >> >> sure that the disk
> >> >> >> is properly inserted, or that you are connected to the Internet or
> >> >> >> your
> >> >> >> network, and then try
> >> >> >> again. If it still cannot be located, the information might have
> >> >> >> been
> >> >> >> moved
> >> >> >> to a different
> >> >> >> location.
> >> >> >> OK
> >> >> >> -- end of error
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Additionally, I have been trying to have jsx open a text file after
> >> >> >> installing.  I have a file with the same base name (root) as
> >> >> >> described
> >> >> >> below,, and the text file is never opened in Notepad!  I now have a
> >> >> >> copy
> >> >> >> of
> >> >> >> that text file with the same base name as my main application (exe
> >> >> >> association) and another with the same base name as the last jss
> >> >> >> file
> >> >> >> alphabetically.  Why not?
> >> >> >> -- from relevant jsx help
> >> >> >> Installing from an Executable Package
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> In this mode of the JSX Installer dialog, the Packager button is
> >> >> >> not
> >> >> >> included, and the edit box for zip archive is read-only. Also, the
> >> >> >> button
> >> >> >> for selecting an archive is replaced by a check box for keeping a
> >> >> >> copy
> >> >> >> of
> >> >> >> the archive embedded in the executable. This choice is unchecked by
> >> >> >> default.
> >> >> >> If checked, the Install button not only places scripts in the
> >> >> >> appropriate
> >> >> >> JAWS folder, but places a copy of the zip archive in the same
> >> >> >> folder
> >> >> >> as
> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> executable (e.g., skype.zip would be placed in the same folder as
> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> setup
> >> >> >> program, skype.exe). In this way, you also have a copy of the zip
> >> >> >> archive
> >> >> >> that the author created. It may be easier to look for documentation
> >> >> >> files
> >> >> >> in
> >> >> >> it rather than in the JAWS scripts folder. JSX will look for a
> >> >> >> documentation
> >> >> >> file, however, and automatically display it if found. JSX looks for
> >> >> >> a
> >> >> >> .txt
> >> >> >> file with the same root name as the last .jss file in the archive
> >> >> >> (e.g.,
> >> >> >> skype.txt). If found, JSX opens it with the default program for
> >> >> >> text
> >> >> >> files
> >> >> >> (e.g., with Notepad).
> >> >> >> -- end of relevant jsx help
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Don Marang
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> >> >> From: "Jamal Mazrui" <empower@xxxxxxxxx>
> >> >> >> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> >> >> Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 2:23 PM
> >> >> >> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Proper Way to Merge Functions in Default
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > It seems that I left a debugging message box in the code to
> >> >> >> > verify
> >> >> >> > the
> >> >> >> > full zip archive name once extracted.  It was not actually an
> >> >> >> > error
> >> >> >> > message though did indeed look like one.  I commented out that
> >> >> >> > line,
> >> >> >> > recompiled JSX, and created an executable from your zip archive,
> >> >> >> > which
> >> >> >> > seems to install smoothly under XP.  Let me know your results
> >> >> >> > with
> >> >> >> > the
> >> >> >> > March 25 version I just poasted at the usual URL
> >> >> >> > http://EmpowermentZone.com/jsxsetup.exe
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Jamal
> >> >> >> > On Wed, 25 Mar 2009, Donald Marang
> >> >> >> > wrote:
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 13:42:08 -0400
> >> >> >> >> From: Donald Marang <donald.marang@xxxxxxxxx>
> >> >> >> >> Reply-To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >> >> >> To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >> >> >> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Proper Way to Merge Functions in
> >> >> >> >> Default
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> No the base for both is "VerizonCallAssistantScripts".  I did
> >> >> >> >> have
> >> >> >> >> an
> >> >> >> >> issue
> >> >> >> >> if I created a filename with my version number included, like
> >> >> >> >> "VerizonCallAssistantScripts0.95".  I have not tried this again
> >> >> >> >> yet.
> >> >> >> >> I
> >> >> >> >> will
> >> >> >> >> after I get backk from doing my taxes.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> The zip and the exe files vxcan be downloaded at:
> >> >> >> >> http://mysite.verizon.net/marangs/VerizonCallAssistant.html
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Don Marang
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> >> >> >> From: "Jamal Mazrui" <empower@xxxxxxxxx>
> >> >> >> >> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> >> >> >> Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 11:30 AM
> >> >> >> >> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Proper Way to Merge Functions in
> >> >> >> >> Default
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >A possible cause just occurred to me.  Is the name of the .exe
> >> >> >> >> >installer
> >> >> >> >> > different from the name of the .zip archive on which it is
> >> >> >> >> > based?
> >> >> >> >> > I
> >> >> >> >> > thought I had fixed that problem a while back but perhaps it
> >> >> >> >> > has
> >> >> >> >> > resurfaced.
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > Jamal
> >> >> >> >> > On Wed, 25 Mar 2009, Jamal Mazrui wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 10:23:05 -0500 (EST)
> >> >> >> >> >> From: Jamal Mazrui <empower@xxxxxxxxx>
> >> >> >> >> >> To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >> >> >> >> Subject: Re: [jawsscripts] Re: Proper Way to Merge Functions
> >> >> >> >> >> in
> >> >> >> >> >> Default
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> I appreciate working with you to resolve this.  Inno
> >> >> >> >> >> Setup-based
> >> >> >> >> >> installers, which JSX creates, do create a temporary
> >> >> >> >> >> directory
> >> >> >> >> >> that
> >> >> >> >> >> is
> >> >> >> >> >> a
> >> >> >> >> >> subdirectory of your temp directory.  Since I am not finding
> >> >> >> >> >> a
> >> >> >> >> >> WinBatch
> >> >> >> >> >> error message, that helps me narrow where the problem is
> >> >> >> >> >> occuring.
> >> >> >> >> >> Since I have installed other packages successfully onto
> >> >> >> >> >> Vista,
> >> >> >> >> >> however,
> >> >> >> >> >> I am currently stumped, and suggest sending me the zip
> >> >> >> >> >> archive
> >> >> >> >> >> as
> >> >> >> >> >> an
> >> >> >> >> >> attachment (I will only use it for debugging unless you
> >> >> >> >> >> explicitly
> >> >> >> >> >> say
> >> >> >> >> >> otherwise).
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> Jamal
> >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, 24 Mar 2009, Donald Marang wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> > Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 18:39:40 -0400
> >> >> >> >> >> > From: Donald Marang <donald.marang@xxxxxxxxx>
> >> >> >> >> >> > Reply-To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >> >> >> >> > To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >> >> >> >> > Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Proper Way to Merge Functions in
> >> >> >> >> >> > Default
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> > Yes it did allow the merge and compile process to complete!
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> > I still get the initial, incomplete, Vista (?) error after
> >> >> >> >> >> > it
> >> >> >> >> >> > says
> >> >> >> >> >> > making
> >> >> >> >> >> > bbackup, compiling  and before asking if I want to merge.
> >> >> >> >> >> > I
> >> >> >> >> >> > have
> >> >> >> >> >> > the
> >> >> >> >> >> > merge
> >> >> >> >> >> > declaration set to ask for confirmation.  Again I will
> >> >> >> >> >> > paste
> >> >> >> >> >> > below.
> >> >> >> >> >> > I
> >> >> >> >> >> > notice it looks like there is a random temp file name
> >> >> >> >> >> > complete
> >> >> >> >> >> > with
> >> >> >> >> >> > a
> >> >> >> >> >> > ".tmp"
> >> >> >> >> >> > extension followed by a \ and what looks like my zip file
> >> >> >> >> >> > name.
> >> >> >> >> >> > Could
> >> >> >> >> >> > this
> >> >> >> >> >> > be incorrectly building the temp filename path?
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> > If I check to view the zip file, I get a similar error
> >> >> >> >> >> > after
> >> >> >> >> >> > it
> >> >> >> >> >> > finishes
> >> >> >> >> >> > the merge, but the path name stops after the ".tmp" part.
> >> >> >> >> >> > This
> >> >> >> >> >> > message
> >> >> >> >> >> > states that the dfile can not be found.
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> > I will send better information after I play with it for a
> >> >> >> >> >> > while.
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> > --- Start of error
> >> >> >> >> >> > C:\Users\Don\AppData\Local\Temp\is-L93DC.tmp\VerizonCall...
> >> >> >> >> >> > graphic
> >> >> >> >> >> > 798
> >> >> >> >> >> > graphic 603
> >> >> >> >> >> > OK Cancel
> >> >> >> >> >> > --- end of error
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> > Don Marang
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> >> >> >> >> > From: "Jamal Mazrui" <empower@xxxxxxxxx>
> >> >> >> >> >> > To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> >> >> >> >> > Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 1:22 PM
> >> >> >> >> >> > Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Proper Way to Merge Functions in
> >> >> >> >> >> > Default
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> > > Yes, the documentation explains how an existing sequence
> >> >> >> >> >> > > can
> >> >> >> >> >> > > be
> >> >> >> >> >> > > changed.
> >> >> >> >> >> > > I've just posted a revised JSX at the usual URL,
> >> >> >> >> >> > > http://EmpowermentZone.com/jsxsetup.exe
> >> >> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> >> >> > > Can you let me know if it resolves the bug you
> >> >> >> >> >> > > encountered?
> >> >> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> >> >> > > Jamal
> >> >> >> >> >> > > On Tue, 24 Mar
> >> >> >> >> >> > > 2009,
> >> >> >> >> >> > > Donald Marang wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 12:15:18 -0400
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> From: Donald Marang <donald.marang@xxxxxxxxx>
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> Reply-To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Proper Way to Merge Functions
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> in
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> Default
> >> >> >> >> >> > >>
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> Thanks!  I think that answers my question.  Is there a
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> way
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> to
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> force
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> the
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> merge process to reverse the order that it places the
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> Use
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> statements?  I
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> am
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> not sure I need that capability yet, I am just curious.
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> I
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> guess
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> I
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> should
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> read the manual again.  More carefully this time!  I
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> seem
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> to
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> remember
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> something regarding the Use statements and the chain of
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> execution.
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> As
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> soon
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> as I straighten out my difficulties with the jsx error
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> messages
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> during
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> installation when it tries to create/access a temp file,
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> I
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> can
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> verify my
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> assumptions and experiment.
> >> >> >> >> >> > >>
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> I appreciate all the help and knowledge I get from this
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> list!
> >> >> >> >> >> > >>
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> Don Marang
> >> >> >> >> >> > >>
> >> >> >> >> >> > >>
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> From: "Jamal Mazrui" <empower@xxxxxxxxx>
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 11:12 AM
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Proper Way to Merge Functions
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> in
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> Default
> >> >> >> >> >> > >>
> >> >> >> >> >> > >>
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > If default.jss is a container file with Use
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > default_fs.jsb
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > on a
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > line
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > prior to Use custom.jsb, then I think the default
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > function
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > will
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > be
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > called if you call it from a custom function with the
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > same
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > name.
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > Beyond
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > that, let me defer to Doug Lee who is the expert on
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > such
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > matters!
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > Jamal
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > On Mon,
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > 23 Mar 2009, Donald Marang wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 21:17:01 -0400
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> From: Donald Marang <donald.marang@xxxxxxxxx>
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> Reply-To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Proper Way to Merge
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> Functions
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> in
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> Default
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> Thanks for the response.
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> Before I was attempting to automatically merge
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> scripts
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> with
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> default, I
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> placed my own WindowActivatedEvent function in my
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> file
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> and
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> place
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> the
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> Use
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> statement after all the other Use statements and
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> before
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> the
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> function
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> declarations.  This seemed to work.  But from a
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> logical
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> standpoint, I
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> am
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> not
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> sure why?  Am I overwriting the function located in
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> default?
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> Or
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> will
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> both
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> functions be in the chain?
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> If I use the standard merge, will both versions of
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> the
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> function
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> be in
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> the
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> chain, or will I need to do something extra?
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> Don Marang
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> From: "Jamal Mazrui" <empower@xxxxxxxxx>
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> To: <JAWSScripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 4:36 PM
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Proper Way to Merge
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> Functions
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> in
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> Default
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >I do not have an answer for the event question,
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >other
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >than
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >perhaps
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >looking
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > for and searching the .jss source to see if that
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > function
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > has
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > already
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > been
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > defined on the user's system (a hack, of course).
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > Unfortunately, merge scripts do need to be
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > installed
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > again
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > after FS
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > updates JAWS.  This is because they reference a
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > copy
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > that
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > was
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > made
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > of
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > the
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > FS script file, e.g., default_fs.jsb.  Running the
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > same
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > JSX
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > installer
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > package again should work (uninstalling scripts
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > should
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > not
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > be
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > necessary).
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > Jamal
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > --Original Message --
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > [mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > Of
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > Donald
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > Marang
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 8:30 PM
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > Subject: [jawsscripts] Proper Way to Merge
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > Functions
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > in
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > Default
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > My program requires a single line to be added to a
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > WindowActivatedEvent
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > default level function.  My problem is that I do
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > not
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > know
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > if
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > the
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > user
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > installing the scripts has a WindowActivatedEvent
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > function
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > in
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > their
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > default scripts file or not.
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > I had the function repeated as shown below in my
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > file
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > to
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > be
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > merged
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > with
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > default.  I don't want to override any other
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > actions
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > that
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > might
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > be
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > defined
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > in their default scripts file.  I think the FS
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > default
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > has a
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > function
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > to
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > check for an AOL login.  What is the proper way to
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > handle
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > this?
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > Void Function WindowActivatedEvent (handle hWnd)
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > CheckForToast (hWnd)
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > WindowActivatedEvent (hWnd)
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > EndFunction
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > PS  What happens to these merged scripts when FS
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > provides
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > an
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > update
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > like
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > they did this week?  Would these files need to be
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > merged
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > again?
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > Don Marang
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > __________
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > Visit and contribute to The JAWS Script Repository
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > http://jawsscripts.com
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > View the list's information and change your
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > settings
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > at
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > http://www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > __________
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > Visit and contribute to The JAWS Script Repository
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > http://jawsscripts.com
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > View the list's information and change your
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > settings
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > at
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > http://www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> __________
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> Visit and contribute to The JAWS Script Repository
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> http://jawsscripts.com
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> View the list's information and change your settings
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> at
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> http://www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > __________
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > Visit and contribute to The JAWS Script Repository
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > http://jawsscripts.com
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > View the list's information and change your settings
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > at
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > http://www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> > >>
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> __________
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> Visit and contribute to The JAWS Script Repository
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> http://jawsscripts.com
> >> >> >> >> >> > >>
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> View the list's information and change your settings at
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> http://www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts
> >> >> >> >> >> > >>
> >> >> >> >> >> > > __________
> >> >> >> >> >> > > Visit and contribute to The JAWS Script Repository
> >> >> >> >> >> > > http://jawsscripts.com
> >> >> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> >> >> > > View the list's information and change your settings at
> >> >> >> >> >> > > http://www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts
> >> >> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> > __________
> >> >> >> >> >> > Visit and contribute to The JAWS Script Repository
> >> >> >> >> >> > http://jawsscripts.com
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> > View the list's information and change your settings at
> >> >> >> >> >> > http://www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> > __________
> >> >> >> >> > Visit and contribute to The JAWS Script Repository
> >> >> >> >> > http://jawsscripts.com
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > View the list's information and change your settings at
> >> >> >> >> > http://www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> __________
> >> >> >> >> Visit and contribute to The JAWS Script Repository
> >> >> >> >> http://jawsscripts.com
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> View the list's information and change your settings at
> >> >> >> >> http://www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > __________
> >> >> >> > Visit and contribute to The JAWS Script Repository
> >> >> >> > http://jawsscripts.com
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > View the list's information and change your settings at
> >> >> >> > http://www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> __________
> >> >> >> Visit and contribute to The JAWS Script Repository
> >> >> >> http://jawsscripts.com
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> View the list's information and change your settings at
> >> >> >> http://www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts
> >> >> >>
> >> >> > __________
> >> >> > Visit and contribute to The JAWS Script Repository
> >> >> > http://jawsscripts.com
> >> >> >
> >> >> > View the list's information and change your settings at
> >> >> > http://www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> __________
> >> >> Visit and contribute to The JAWS Script Repository
> >> >> http://jawsscripts.com
> >> >>
> >> >> View the list's information and change your settings at
> >> >> http://www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts
> >> >>
> >> > __________
> >> > Visit and contribute to The JAWS Script Repository
> >> > http://jawsscripts.com
> >> >
> >> > View the list's information and change your settings at
> >> > http://www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts
> >> >
> >>
> >> __________
> >> Visit and contribute to The JAWS Script Repository http://jawsscripts.com
> >>
> >> View the list's information and change your settings at
> >> http://www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts
> >>
> > __________
> > Visit and contribute to The JAWS Script Repository http://jawsscripts.com
> >
> > View the list's information and change your settings at
> > http://www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts
> >
>
> __________ 
> Visit and contribute to The JAWS Script Repository http://jawsscripts.com
>
> View the list's information and change your settings at
> http://www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts
>
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