Whether she runs a class or not, you can purchase her class materials if you are the type to learn on your own. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary Patterson" <gpatterson002@xxxxxxxxx> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2011 3:03 AM Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Questions for a scripter with very little actual experience Ben, I have attended the two script courses at FS; however, the second course was taken about five years ago. I may have to begin looking for the printed material given at the course itself. As I looked at some of the scripts/functions in some of the application script files, they seem very daunting. I am practically through with taking the Basics of Scripting course. I took the Basics of Scripting course about four or five years ago. I understand the principles given the course. Jackie McBride offered a scripting course some time back. Whether she is agreeable to doing the class again is unknown. The last 1/2 day of the second scripts course concerned scripts for braille processing. That material zoomed by me pretty quickly. Thanks for your response. Gary Patterson -----Original Message----- From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ben Humphreys Sent: Friday, December 09, 2011 11:26 PM To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Questions for a scripter with very little actual experience Gary, If you took the 2nd Scripting Class at FS, you should have explored the Home Row utility in detail. Instructor Ryan's example of exploring the various window controls and their associated Control IDs using the Home Row utility in the sample Radio application is outstanding.Taking these scripting classes is like learning to drive instead of riding in a taxi. It's incredibly liberating. I'm not clear on whether you've already taken the on-site classes or intend to. But in general, I think you plug the keystrokes in when they work and resort to control IDs and other "Windows" application attributes exposed by JAWS when keystrokes don't get the job done. Hope this helps, P.S. I realize the FS scripting class is expensive. However, because scripting allows such finer control over your screen reader, because the screen reader is your key to Windows, and because ultimately Windows is one of the most accessible tools in your overall life, I propose that getting great with scripts is one of the best ways of achieving independence and re-empowering ones life after losing eyesight. Ben At 01:14 AM 12/9/2011, you wrote: >Traversing an application's window can obviously be a daunting task. My >questions are: When attempting to fit together the strategy for a >process, is the analysis for solutions to be based of which key strokes >are required to focus on an intended target? Or, might knowledge of the >underlying elements of the Windows OS better serve the scripter such >that a lot of trial and error attempts to reach the target would be >greatly reduced if the scripter knows how windows is configured and/or >structured? I have a book for Windows 7 for Dummies. Is there other >materials that may be better resources. Whether the material is >accessible or not is not a great requirement. Obviously, accessible >material whether it is from an accessible manual or online would be >more convenient. I hire folks to read, so I can research printed >materials. I worked 33 years in database management so digesting >internals material are just fine. Obviously, learning the results of functions and scripts which are developed must be learned. > > >Any suggestions are welcomed. I have attending both of the >Freedomscientific on site scripting courses. > > > >Your responses will be welcomed. > > > >Gary Patterson > > > > > > > >__________� > >View the list's information and change your settings at >http://www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts __________� View the list's information and change your settings at http://www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts __________� View the list's information and change your settings at http://www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts __________� View the list's information and change your settings at http://www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts