In most languages, you can test for a null, nothing in VB, or empty object by doing this: C#: if (!vs_addon) {do something if it doesn't exist} VB: if vs_addon is nothing then do something if it doesn't exist end if How would you do this in a jaws script? __________� View the list's information and change your settings at http://www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts