[jawsscripts] Re: Windows key not trapped because of unrelated JCF option
- From: "David Pinto" <davepinto@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2013 19:08:17 -0800
Artur,
Thanks for the suggestion but renaming the windows key does not solve the
problem. Basically, when UseExtendedKeys=1, the single Windows key doesn't
even trigger the KeyPressedEvent, but passes directly to the system to open
the start menu. But when UseExtendedKeys=0, the Windows key actually
triggers the KeyPressedEvent.
David
----- Original Message -----
From: "Artur Räpp" <rtr@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2013 10:25 AM
Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Windows key not trapped because of unrelated JCF
option
> Hi,
>
> Maybe the name of windows key changes. LeftWin|RightWin or something
> similar. My pure guess.
>
> Artur
>
> 14.11.2013 20:11, David Pinto kirjutas:
>> Physically removing the Windows key is not an option for me. Instead, I
>> need
>> to be able to selectively trap or pass the Windows key through to the
>> system. Right now, I am interested why JAWS ability to invoke a script
>> that
>> I've assigned to the Windows key should be disabled when the JCF setting
>> distinguishing between the extended and numpad keys is enabled. I keep
>> this
>> option enabled in order to help students distinguish paired keys. Turn
>> that
>> JCF option off, and presto bingo! The Windows key is bound to the script
>> I
>> created for it. Go figure. Anyone have a clue?
>>
>> David
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Travis Roth" <travis@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2013 6:03 AM
>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Windows key trapping partly resolved
>>
>>
>>> If you really want to disable the Windows key then using SharpKeys would
>>> be
>>> a more fail safe solution and would not require the use of JAWS.
>>> Sharpkeys does some Windows registry hacks so it is not screen reader
>>> dependent.
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> [mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David Pinto
>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2013 8:24 PM
>>> To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Windows key trapping partly resolved
>>>
>>> Jim,
>>> I found out why I couldn't trap the Windows key as you proposed. In the
>>> JCF
>>> file of MyApp, I had the setting UseExtendedKeys=1, because I need to
>>> differentiate between the numpad keys and the extended key equivalents,
>>> like
>>> 6 pack Home versus NumPadHome. And This is what's weird. When I set
>>> UseExtendedKeys=0 in the KCF file, then the Windows key that is assigned
>>> to
>>> a script, indeed traps the windows key. But if I have UseExtendedKeys=1,
>>> then the Windows key that is assigned to a script does not invoke the
>>> script. Any ideas?
>>> David
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Jim Bauer" <holdsworthfan@xxxxxx>
>>> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Monday, November 11, 2013 4:59 PM
>>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Windows key
>>>
>>>
>>>> script test()
>>>> sayString("Trapped.")
>>>> ...
>>>> endScript
>>>>
>>>> And under your desired section in <APPBASE>.jkm:
>>>> leftWindows=test
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 11/13/2013 6:27 PM, David Pinto wrote:
>>>>> Jim,
>>>>> Thanks for your feedback, but despite attaching the windows key to a
>>>>> script,
>>>>> that script is not invoked. Instead, the Windows key opens the start
>>>>> menu.
>>>>> Note that in the Keyboard manager, the Add Keystroke dialog will not
>>>>> accept
>>>>> a single windows keypress as a hotkey. But if I do a key combination
>>>>> with
>>>>> the windows key, and then delete the second key, then I can
>>>>> successfully
>>>>> assign the windows key to a script. I can also do this directly in the
>>>>> JKM
>>>>> file by just typing it in. Nevertheless, the script is not triggered
>>>>> by
>>>>> the
>>>>> Windows key. Perhaps you've done it a different way that works. If so,
>>>>> please advise.
>>>>>
>>>>> One last thing. I was mistaken when I said the JAWS keyboard help mode
>>>>> did
>>>>> not trap the windows key. It in fact does prevent the windows key from
>>>>> passing through to the system. Maybe there's a hint of how to go about
>>>>> things.
>>>>> David
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Jim Bauer" <holdsworthfan@xxxxxx>
>>>>> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Sent: Monday, November 11, 2013 2:41 PM
>>>>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Windows key
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Try binding a script to "leftWindows" in the app's JKM. (I don't
>>>>>> presently have a right windows key here, but if one works, so too
>>>>>> should
>>>>>> the other.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 11/13/2013 4:28 PM, David Pinto wrote:
>>>>>>> Got a couple of related questions.
>>>>>>> 1. Does anyone have a strategy to determine if the Windows key has
>>>>>>> been
>>>>>>> pressed?
>>>>>>> 2. Is there any way to intercept the Windows key from going to the
>>>>>>> system?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Basically, I've been frustrated in my ambition to take control of
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> Windows key in scripted environments where students are getting in
>>>>>>> trouble
>>>>>>> by inadvertantly pressing the Windows key. Here's what I've noticed
>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>> JAWS and the single Windows key.
>>>>>>> 1. In JAWS keyboard help mode, the Windows key is not trapped, but
>>>>>>> rather
>>>>>>> executes its function of opening the start menu.
>>>>>>> 2. The Windows key doesn't register in the KeyPressedEvent () either
>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> currently loaded scripts or the default scripts that are invoked
>>>>>>> when
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> start menu gains focus.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So right now, the only way I know of determining if the Windows key
>>>>>>> has
>>>>>>> been
>>>>>>> pressed, is to test for its effect in the WindowActivatedEvent ().
>>>>>>> In
>>>>>>> other
>>>>>>> words, did the start menu open? Fortunately, before the currently
>>>>>>> loaded
>>>>>>> scripts unload and the Start Menu's default scripts load, the
>>>>>>> WindowActivatedEvent () contains that information. At any rate,
>>>>>>> does
>>>>>>> anyone
>>>>>>> have a better strategy to determine if the Windows key has been
>>>>>>> pressed?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks in advance,
>>>>>>> David Pinto
>>>>>>> YesAccessible.com
>>>>>>>
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