[jawsscripts] handling space as high order digit separator by Jaws

  • From: "David Farough" <David.Farough@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 11:24:50 -0500

I have sent the following message to Freedom Scientific to find out if there is 
any intent to handle this issue, given that ISO standards recommend the use of 
a space to denote high order digit groupings in numbers.  Since these 
accommodations are easily handled in French, I wonder how difficult it would be 
to accommodate this for English text.

Text of my message to FS follows.
Recently our communications branch has decided to follow the ISO standards with 
regard to the use of commas for high order digits and thousands separators in 
all of our published material on the web.  An article that summarizes this 
recommendation  can be found on wikipedia at: 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decimal_separator#Digit_grouping 

I will provide below a couple of paragraphs from one of our publications which 
illustrate this practice.

In the past year, the public service of Canada, which is subject to the 
Public Service Employment Act (PSEA), continued to renew itself, growing to 
over 195 000 employees. With the ongoing departures of baby boomers and the 
4.1% growth in the public service over the last year, hiring activity increased.

This growth translated into 54 734 new hires to the public service in 
2007-2008, an increase of nearly 12% over the previous year.  "Increased hiring 
activity
offers opportunities for the public service to recruit people with the kind of 
skills it needs for the future and to compete more effectively with other
sectors," added Maria Barrados. 

When Jaws reads numbers which have been formatted this way it considers them as 
two separate numbers.  so it would pronounce 195 000 as one hundred ninety five 
zero zero zero.  When Jaws presents this in Braille, it appears as #195 #000 so 
the user is lead to think that these are two numbers rather than one.

I would like to know if this issue will be addressed in future versions of Jaws.
Obviously this issue cannot be handled using the number processing options 
because these options govern how Jaws handles numbers and not how Jaws 
recognizes the start and end of a number.

So far, the only thing that we have found that will get around this issue is to 
use an invisible comma to separate these digit groupings. I think you could 
appreciate the problems we might have trying to maintain our content using this 
solution.

I will point out, that this is only a problem in English text because the use 
of the space is standard in French text and Jaws accommodates this with no 
problem.

I would appreciate any advice you might be able to give us on how to handle 
these numbers.  A quick solution to this problem would be appreciated as well, 
but our content is publically available on the internet and we have no control 
over what version of Jaws or any other screen reader might be used to read our 
text.

Thank you 
David Farough 


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