I thought they had in fact already ditched video intercept, at least
an older style of it. I thought they now used a mirror driver.
Under device manager I now show "Freedom Scientific Accessibility
Display Driver", and I have also not seen the video intercept install
dialog for years now (and in fact when I look through the jaws menu
and start menu group I don't see video intercept listed anywhere).
As far as display accessibility goes the one thing I would really like
to see would be somehow dealing with the direct 2d/direct write chain
so that information could be extracted like it already is for GDI.
(The non-hooking of D2D/DW is why WPF apps are not visible to the jaws
cursor, for example).
On 5/3/16, Kaveinthran Pulanthran <kavein2211@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
hi,
I just had a chance to talk to eric, and he said that they are
actually working on dismissing the video intercept thingy and use a
technique call high level hooking to get information from screen. This
also means that we could use jaws in a pendrive stick jjust like nvda,
in a near future.
thanks
On 5/3/16, Pablo Morales <pablocmd2014@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Well, but Freedom Scientific is not responsible of the bad accessibility__________�
that software developers makes when they write code. Accessibility is
write
code well.The new internet browser is not accessible with jaws, and
either
with any other screen reader. It is a freedom scientific responsibility?
No, it is a Microsoft responsibility.
There are many databases managers, languages, encoders that we can not
use,
with jaws or with any other screen reader. But it is not a FS
responsibility, it is the responsibility of the guys who created those
encoders or database managers.
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Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: jaws and its complexity
Hi,
it is a nice and attention grabbing note on the scripting and
re-configuration of JAWS. I would like to ad here that in this
"fast-moving world" jaws is still lagging behind in being compatible
with many data analysis program. I have been looking for any scripts
or scripter to make jaws work with QSR NVivo 10 or any edition, but
no success. any where around the world I found the same thoughts:
there are none, we left the idea of using NVivo, or simply we are
waiting for a breakthrough.
If a 20 years old screanreader cannot provide compatibility with
such an essential work application for visually impaired application
then what else can back the thought of making it more portable, usable
and feasible?thoughts should be included on this as well.
On 5/3/16, Kaveinthran Pulanthran <kavein2211@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
hi friends,
Jaws screen reader is now in its 20th year and as for me it needs a
rewrite from scrash.
As a jaws user, I love is feature-rich, customizability and its
smartess on handling things. Jaws is more then a screen reader and it
is a great productivity tool for the blind.
But, we must not forget that as the world is moving so fast,
everything need to be change, and everything need to be rethought for
better compatebility with current world. as for me, an important
aspect that should be considered for a screen reader is portability.
Portability not just means having everywhere access but it also should
be anytime access, lite and easy-to-manage piece.
As I observe jaws more closely, it seems that the engeniers behind it
overlooked it's portability, hence, making it more big in size. The
ubiquitous world had shown to us that we need portability for nearly
every application that we used in our regular computing tasks. In my
opinion, jaws is quite a heavy program because of its garbage coding.
In my thoughts the engeniers just writing new features on top of every
release without doing a clean-up process. This results in obsolete,
old and unuseable script files, mixing of old and new codes and
conflict of out-of-date and new programming technology.
If you go into the shared settings of jaws, there's still script files
for wordperfect and Quattropro which was quite popular in the late
90's and early 2000. But this is not the case now.
Not only that, the garbage of scripts is even larger when there's many
incomplete scripts and out-of -date scripting techniques. As there's
more and more method of writing script, I am sure that old scripts are
not picking up.
If we dig into the drivers and low-level programming of jaws, I am
sure the thing is worst. The logic is simple. Even simplistic tasks of
managing script is not taken care of, so, what are you expecting for
low-level codes?
Moreover, the help files seems to be very large due to many
out-of-date content mixing up with new content.
There's still help available for many unused programs and the keyboard
commands are not updated.
a mature and old screen reader like jaws certainly need a cleaning up
once for 3 or 4 years, and in fact a clean rewrite to make the code to
match the current era. Even further, As engeniers, software developers
should aware of balance movement in their development and keeping all
things current.it is not a balance development if new features are
blindly being edit without making sure to remove the old and obbselete
codes. A clean rewrite will certainly ensure better productivity,
responsiveness and portability of jaws..
As scripters, I am sure everyone have a thought on this issue. Don't
you think jaws is overloaded with so many garbage codes, and need a
fresh rewrite and reborn? don't you think the video intercept
technology should be no longer use as windows8 and windows10 s
conveying enough information to screenreader. I am very sure and
undoubtful that with a fresh rewrite from the scratch jaws could be
more smaller in size, perhaps, 40 or 50 mb. And, I am also in an
opinion that the avoidment of video intercept driver is essential to
bring back the portability of jaws. isn't it nice to bring jaws in a
pendrive, and access it whenever and wherever we want?
thoughts are wellcome
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