[jawsscripts] Re: jawsscripts Digest V6 #197
- From: Paul Bonarrigo <pjbonarrigo@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: "jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 17:11:55 -0700 (PDT)
Hi Folks,
I am looking for recommendations regarding tools for building and testing
accessible forms.
I've worked primarily with Jaws users but am expanding form accessibility
to low vision.
So far, I'm using Office 2010 and writing compatible legacy word files, and
will purchase Adobe Acrobat X Pro.
For web resources, I've looked at WebAim.org and will look at CAST.org.
For accessibility applications I've been looking at Netcentric's Common Look
Office Pro (formerly PAW) and Commonlook PDF.
I've done my share of Word forms and would like to create some PDF forms.
Is this a good toolkit for building and evaluating Word and PDF forms for
accessibility?
If you have additional sites or tools that I should try, your recommendations
are quite welcome.
Paul Bonarrigo
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jawsscripts Digest Mon, 17 Sep 2012 Volume: 06 Issue: 197
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[jawsscripts] Re: JAWS Punctuation
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[jawsscripts] Re: JAWS Punctuation
[jawsscripts] Re: JAWS Punctuation
[jawsscripts] Re: JAWS Punctuation
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From: "Annabelle Susan Morison" <foristnights@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: JAWS Punctuation
Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 23:26:25 -0700
I tried modifying "eloq.sbl, and it seems to work with all programs except
Microsoft Word. What's up with that?
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From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Soronel Haetir
Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 10:09 PM
To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: JAWS Punctuation
You can, and that is indeed the method I prefer. Because then jaws
treats it like other punctuation and you can control the level it
speaks at. Dictionary entries don't give the same degree of control.
But modifying the eloq.sbl is also harder and you have to do it on a
per-synthesizer basis (modifying eloq.sbl won't change how realspeak
deals with the character for instance).
On 9/16/12, Annabelle Susan Morison <foristnights@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Interesting. I thought you could also customize the description of
> punctuation via the "eloq.sbl" as well.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jackie McBride
> Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 6:43 PM
> To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: JAWS Punctuation
>
> Yeah, sorry--8220 & 8221, & u do it by going into ms word & hitting
> insert d, e.g., you're customizing the word jdf file.
>
> On 9/16/12, Annabelle Susan Morison <foristnights@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> Are you sure it isn't 8220 and 8221? Which dictionary are you referring
> to?
>> Is it the Dictionary Manager? Or is it the "eloq.sbl" file that I would
>> customize the punctuation in? I'm confused!
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jackie McBride
>> Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 2:47 PM
>> To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: JAWS Punctuation
>>
>> Annabelle, when u have your cursor on 1 of those quotes, & u hit the
>> current character key 3 times, it'll give u the ascii equivalent of
>> those characters. If u look at yor word dictionary, you'll notice that
>> \8820 which is the ascii character for an open quote is pronounced "
>> i.e., ascii value 34. If u wish, u could easily change that to open
>> quote, & the same applies to closed quote, which has an entry of
>> \8821.
>>
>> On 9/16/12, Annabelle Susan Morison <foristnights@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> Hi, it's Annabelle.
>>> I've customized the Punctuation to have it speak the way I want to, but,
>>> for
>>> some reason, when I'm in Microsoft Word, instead of something like "open
>>> quote" and "closed quote", it just says "quote". I can get them to say
>>> "open
>>> quote" and "closed quote" within all other programs, but why won't it do
>>> the
>>> same in Microsoft Word? Is there something I'm doing wrong? The
>>> characters
>>> I'm trying to customize are " and ".
>>> _____
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>>
>>
>> --
>> Blame the computer--why not? It can't defend itself & occasionally
>> might even be the culprit
>> Jackie McBride
>> Ask Me Computer Questions at: www.pcinquirer.com
>> Jaws Scripting training materials: www.screenreaderscripting.com
>> homePage: www.abletec.serverheaven.net
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>
>
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> might even be the culprit
> Jackie McBride
> Ask Me Computer Questions at: www.pcinquirer.com
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Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 09:57:05 +0300
From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Artur_Räpp?= <rtr@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: JAWS Punctuation
Hello,
I guess that Microsoft Word replaces the quote marks with ". Sometime
Word changes characters immediatly, sometimes a bit later. For example,
when you finish the line or type closing quote.
The simplest way to get character unicode value in Microsoft word is
Put cursor behind the character and press ALT+x. At least in my Word
2010 it works.
for example: type the character and press ALT+x
I am sorry that i cann't help more.
Artur
16.09.2012 21:26, Annabelle Susan Morison kirjutas:
> Hi, it's Annabelle.
> I've customized the Punctuation to have it speak the way I want to, but, for
> some reason, when I'm in Microsoft Word, instead of something like "open
> quote" and "closed quote", it just says "quote". I can get them to say "open
> quote" and "closed quote" within all other programs, but why won't it do the
> same in Microsoft Word? Is there something I'm doing wrong? The characters
> I'm trying to customize are " and ".
> _____
> No virus found in this message.
> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
> Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2437/5269 - Release Date: 09/15/12
>
> _____
>
> No virus found in this message.
> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
> Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2437/5271 - Release Date: 09/16/12
>
>
>
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From: "Annabelle Susan Morison" <foristnights@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: JAWS Punctuation
Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 00:24:08 -0700
What does Alt+X do? I'm confused!
-----Original Message-----
From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Artur Räpp
Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 11:57 PM
To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: JAWS Punctuation
Hello,
I guess that Microsoft Word replaces the quote marks with ". Sometime
Word changes characters immediatly, sometimes a bit later. For example,
when you finish the line or type closing quote.
The simplest way to get character unicode value in Microsoft word is
Put cursor behind the character and press ALT+x. At least in my Word
2010 it works.
for example: type the character and press ALT+x
I am sorry that i cann't help more.
Artur
16.09.2012 21:26, Annabelle Susan Morison kirjutas:
> Hi, it's Annabelle.
> I've customized the Punctuation to have it speak the way I want to, but,
for
> some reason, when I'm in Microsoft Word, instead of something like "open
> quote" and "closed quote", it just says "quote". I can get them to say
"open
> quote" and "closed quote" within all other programs, but why won't it do
the
> same in Microsoft Word? Is there something I'm doing wrong? The characters
> I'm trying to customize are " and ".
> _____
> No virus found in this message.
> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
> Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2437/5269 - Release Date: 09/15/12
>
> _____
>
> No virus found in this message.
> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
> Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2437/5271 - Release Date: 09/16/12
>
>
>
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>
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From: "Annabelle Susan Morison" <foristnights@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: JAWS Punctuation
Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 01:58:21 -0700
I tried what you said, but it didn't work.
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[mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Artur Räpp
Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 11:57 PM
To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: JAWS Punctuation
Hello,
I guess that Microsoft Word replaces the quote marks with ". Sometime
Word changes characters immediatly, sometimes a bit later. For example,
when you finish the line or type closing quote.
The simplest way to get character unicode value in Microsoft word is
Put cursor behind the character and press ALT+x. At least in my Word
2010 it works.
for example: type the character and press ALT+x
I am sorry that i cann't help more.
Artur
16.09.2012 21:26, Annabelle Susan Morison kirjutas:
> Hi, it's Annabelle.
> I've customized the Punctuation to have it speak the way I want to, but,
for
> some reason, when I'm in Microsoft Word, instead of something like "open
> quote" and "closed quote", it just says "quote". I can get them to say
"open
> quote" and "closed quote" within all other programs, but why won't it do
the
> same in Microsoft Word? Is there something I'm doing wrong? The characters
> I'm trying to customize are " and ".
> _____
> No virus found in this message.
> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
> Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2437/5269 - Release Date: 09/15/12
>
> _____
>
> No virus found in this message.
> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
> Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2437/5271 - Release Date: 09/16/12
>
>
>
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Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 17:26:52 +0300
From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Artur_Räpp?= <rtr@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: JAWS Punctuation
ALT+x replaces in Microsoft Word the character with it's unicode value.
HTH
Artur
17.09.2012 10:24, Annabelle Susan Morison kirjutas:
> What does Alt+X do? I'm confused!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Artur Räpp
> Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 11:57 PM
> To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: JAWS Punctuation
>
> Hello,
>
> I guess that Microsoft Word replaces the quote marks with ". Sometime
> Word changes characters immediatly, sometimes a bit later. For example,
> when you finish the line or type closing quote.
>
> The simplest way to get character unicode value in Microsoft word is
> Put cursor behind the character and press ALT+x. At least in my Word
> 2010 it works.
> for example: type the character and press ALT+x
>
> I am sorry that i cann't help more.
>
> Artur
> 16.09.2012 21:26, Annabelle Susan Morison kirjutas:
>> Hi, it's Annabelle.
>> I've customized the Punctuation to have it speak the way I want to, but,
> for
>> some reason, when I'm in Microsoft Word, instead of something like "open
>> quote" and "closed quote", it just says "quote". I can get them to say
> "open
>> quote" and "closed quote" within all other programs, but why won't it do
> the
>> same in Microsoft Word? Is there something I'm doing wrong? The characters
>> I'm trying to customize are " and ".
>> _____
>> No virus found in this message.
>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
>> Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2437/5269 - Release Date: 09/15/12
>>
>> _____
>>
>> No virus found in this message.
>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
>> Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2437/5271 - Release Date: 09/16/12
>>
>>
>>
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