[jawsscripts] Re: searching for unicode values
- From: "Geoff Chapman" <gch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2012 17:15:46 +1100
yep, indeed! I did indicate it would not work in notePad.
so that's congruent with my findings.
See all the weird unicode translation
mysteries referred to in my last.
----- Original Message -----
From: "GianniP46" <giannip46@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2012 1:34 PM
Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: searching for unicode values
> in wordpad, I got it to work fine, thanks! in notepad, it did not work at
> all. I am using win xp pro sp3 with Jaws 14.
> I will try this in ScratchLIVE and see what results I get when I get a
> chance.
> Thanks Geoff!!
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Geoff Chapman
> To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2012 1:07 PM
> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: searching for unicode values
>
> HI Gian.
>
> after some extensive testing here today, on unicode character translation
> issues, I've discovered a couple of strange caveats which I may not go
> into
> now, but certainly will in another post, as I wish to really get to the
> bottom of what Jaws is doing re unicode character translation in
> differing
> environments.
>
>
> However, just wanted to report that Jackie's suggestion to you below, re
> selecting the circle bullet character, copying it to clipboard, then
> pasting
> it, as a normal text string item inside quotes, into the findString
> function
> of a script, does actually work.
> I've tested it here in wordpad with success.
> See below for the test Script.
>
> So obviously though, to get this character into your clipboard for
> copying
> in the first place, you need to go to Wordpad, then turn numLock on,
> such
> that NumPad types numbers, then holding the alt key down, type your 9679
> unicode char numbers, then release the alt key.
> Then turn off numlock again as per usual.
> you should then see the circle bullet character turning up in wordpad.
> And then you can simply shift+RightArrow over it to select it, and copy
> it
> to clipboard, to then paste into your findString function.
>
> However, and here's where things get a bit weird.
> At least in windows xp, Don't try this in notePad! or, not only will jaws
> not properly announce the circle bullet unicode character you just typed,
> it
> actually says absolutely nothing here when I arrow over it in notePad
> using
> jaws12,
> and, when pressed three times quickly to query it's value, it'll report
> some
> totally other character value instead! Like, 9575!
>
> Now. The other weird thing is, and this is relevant to HSC's TextString
> location feature also,
> if you queery jaws with the ReadClipBoard command, Windows+JawsKey+X,
> once
> you've successfully selected/copied your circle bullet character to the
> clipboard in wordpad, jaws does this wierd thing, of announcing,
> "question?"
> instead!
>
> Who knows why though!
>
> I'll talk more about HSC's Text and graphics location and ennumeration
> features/behaviour,
> which I've also done some considerable testing with now, and have
> discovered
> some rather useful information that I think you will want to know re some
> of
> your questions about that, in another post a bit later on.
>
> The short version is, for utilizing it for this particular textString
> location functionality, pasting the circle bullet character, into the
> text key of the hotspot definition, and setting textMode=and TextCount=
> accordingly, does not seem to function as expected here.
> because even though it properly says, circle Bullet, in the hotspot
> definition, immediately upon pasting the character to the right of the
> "text=" key,
> When you go back in there to examine it again, you find that it's done
> that
> weird thing that Jaws does with the clipboard announcement. I.e. actually
> converted, the circle bullet character, to a question mark character.
> Thus
> hsc is then looking for the wrong character, and things will thus not
> behave
> as expected.
>
> At least that was what I think happened, during my admittedly one-shot
> test
> experience here in wordpad.
>
> So it seems there's something weird about unicode character translation
> going down here, that I for one do not as yet understand at all.
>
> Here's the findString Script I tested, and it works here for me in
> wordpad.
>
> hopefully it won't get messed up by email and the char turn into
> something
> else weird across the ether!
>
>
> Script FindCircleBulletTest () ; assigned to control+3.
>
> ; findString test
>
> FindString (GetCurrentWindow (), "â-?", s_top, s_unrestricted, false)
>
> EndScript
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "GianniP46" <giannip46@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2012 12:11 PM
> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: searching for unicode values
>
>
> > you cannot, it is a symbol for a column header
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Jackie McBride
> > To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2012 9:04 PM
> > Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: searching for unicode values
> >
> > Have u tried simply selecting it w/your cursor keys, & pasting it
> > in--remembering to enclose it in quotes, of course.
> >
> > On 11/4/12, GianniP46 <giannip46@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > Hi all,
> > > I want to search for a character that is not on the key board.
> Jaws
> > > reports it as circle bullet. the Unicode value is 9679. any ideas
> on
> > how I
> > > can search for this character using find string?
> > >
> > > Gian Carlo Pedulla
> > > GianniP46@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >
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