[jawsscripts] Re: traversing variable window hierarchys and usage of WindowName. is it absolute? or StringContains? questions?
- From: "Geoff Chapman" <gch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 18:15:21 +1000
ah. hmmm. again, my thanks for your response on this Don eh.
when I'm done with this job, I'm gunna have to suss this out a whole lot
more. this whole windows traversing lark.
Geoff c.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Donald Marang" <donald.marang@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 10:15 AM
Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: traversing variable window hierarchys and usage
of WindowName. is it absolute? or StringContains? questions?
> A good way to see if the hierarchy changes between sessions, follow the
> scenario below. Run your program, move to the desired window / object,
> enter the BX Toolbox and get the object's path. Write it down. Now exit
> the program and restart the computer. Run the application again. If it
is
> an application that has a lot of different dialogs that come and go, play
> around with the application for a while to force it to create and destroy
> many windows and branch out its structure, then prune it back. Now move
to
> the desired window / object again and activate the BX Toolbox. Check the
> path and see if it has changed from the previous time. Note the entire
path
> does not need to stay constant. I have never needed to compare more than
> two levels. In real terms, I only needed to look at the relative path of
> the control, it's dialog, and occasionally the parent of the dialog. New
> Wal-Mart announcement, "Will the parent of the lost control please report
to
> Customer Service.".
>
> Don Marang
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Geoff Chapman" <gch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 4:15 PM
> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [jawsscripts] traversing variable window hierarchys and usage of
> WindowName. is it absolute? or StringContains? questions?
>
> > I'm just wondering here. Given the very helpful and I'm certain live
trap
> > that Don mentioned today, of needing to watch whether window hierarchy's
> > changed from one session run to the next, as they are created and
released
> > etc,
> > well, I was just about to start maybe trying to do a messsy, and
> > never-before tried,
> > prior/nexst window deal, to uniquely navigate to my windows of interest,
> > in this app I'm scripting.
> > but, then I noted don's warning, and thought this might not be thus, a
> > very reliable way of doing this?
> > Goes without saying that there's no unique control ID's for these
windows,
> > they equal the handles and thus change every time the app is run.
> > But, I'm kinda running out of options here, since I've discovered, that
> > whilst I can use FindWindow, well enough, to locate a window with a
> > particular unique name, even though the class is the same for all of
them,
> > for my trunk buttons in this telephony app, I've just discovered, that
it
> > appears WindowName, as the third parameter of FindWindow, is, not, gunna
> > work for my station/extension button windows here, because, it seems the
> > name, is also not static, in that it incorporates the name of any given
> > trunk, that gets transferred to it, into it's actual windowName!
> >
> > Now so here's my questions around this:
> >
> > Does anyone know, whether the windowName as the third parameter of
> > FindWindow, has to be, an exact match? and only an exact match? or does
it
> > work on a more "stringContains, type basis? this is not specified in
the
> > fsdn! grrrr!
> > For example: I'm wanting to reliably click in windows, which will change
> > the last part of their Window names dynamically, but, which retain the
> > first part statically. as in:
> >
> > "EXT 102
> > Brad"
> >
> > might be the name of a given extension buttonn's window at one time,
but,
> > then when this obtains a trunk call transferred to it, the lower line
> > here, changes, to, say,
> > "EXT 102
> > TK: 801"
> >
> > Thus, of course for findWindow, if it utilizes an exact match principle,
> > this method isn't gunna fly for me eh.
> > But, if it uses a stringContains type method, then, I could just use the
> > "EXT 101" as my window name, and it might work?
> >
> > I know I could test this for myself I guess, but, if anyone knows off
the
> > tops of their head as to this, could they perhaps be kind enough to let
us
> > know?
> >
> > and/or, in these conditions, and if findWindow does want an exact match
> > for it's third windowName parameter to be happy,
> > would traversing the window hierarchy, be pretty much the only game left
> > in town?
> >
> > Save Jim Bower's totally different Idea I hadn't thought of,
> > that he threw me the other night, which I'm about to test out here,
which
> > again relies on the window of interest remaining in a static
relationship
> > to the top left corner of the appMain Window, which I think these all
do,
> > but I can't vouch for their backEnd hierarchy window tree structure as
> > being static?
> >
> > Actually whilst on that, here's a question.
> > now, hee hee, could doug's bX ToolBox, do something like this? take some
> > sort of snapshot of the window hierarchy tree, and then, either
> > automatically, or, probably mor realistically upon request,
> > provide knowledge of when that relationship changed at all?
> > Such that, for example, I could know, before I tried coding it up,
whether
> > the backEnd hierarchical structure of these windows, remained static
> > enough to utilize walking the branches to locate a given window of
> > interest?
> >
> > now, that would be very sweet! would not it?
> >
> > thanks for listening. comments?
> >
> >
> > geoff c.
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