Here's what I think the ATSC/FCC could offer that might appeal to the Brazil Ministry of Communications. This would meet their stated interest to develop a DTT system optimized for their own needs. Offer to provide grants to universities and industry in Brazil to participate in development of a robust variant of ATSC. Something like 4-VSB and H.264 image compression, so as to achieve even better long range capability and still capable of carrying SD and eventually HD multicasts. 4-VSB carries 2 bits per symbol, or about 20 Mb/s baud rate over a 6 MHz channel, or a net of about 13 Mb/s with 2/3 code convolutional FEC. Keeping the same block FEC as here, and the same 6 MHz channels, the C/N margin would be on the order of 10.9 dB of C/N. (The Shannon limit for 13 Mb/s in a 5.38 MHz channel is 6.37 dB C/N, and then I'm degrading that by the same 4.5 dB as 8T-VSB degrades its 10.47 dB Shannon limit.) But H.264 is just about right to compensate for the missing channel capacity. Alternatively or concurrently, work on better use of the Reed-Solomon and convolutional FECs to lower the C/N margin even without lowering the channel capacity. This is a great university math project. You might be able to approach that 10.9 dB of C/N of 4-VSB even with 8-VSB, and lower the C/N margin of 4-VSB even more. This would be a cool program. Brazil gets to develop their own content in the standard, which optimizes ATSC for the huge distances to be covered by Brazil's DTT. The simpler constellation should even help with dynamic echo tolerance, with similar levels of equalizer sophistication as US ATSC has developed. And what's more, since 4-VSB modulation was originally contemplated as one of the settings of the "VSB Mode" field of the VSB data segment, these Brazilian receivers could be made to accept 2-VSB, 8-VSB, or 16-VSB as well, for added flexibility. So here the ATSC would actually be leveraging one of its weaknesses. The lack of adjustability of US ATSC is used to attract a customer who wants to participate in the development of their standard. What a deal. Then we can benefit from the work here in the US too. Bert ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.