John Shutt wrote: > I can't wait to read DVB's rebuttal. Simple: these tests are way obsolete. Check when the tests took place. > The interesting thing was even in the fixed > modes, ATSC's C/N advantage did not result in > better far field reception. Must have been > an earlier generation ATSC chipset, Do you think? Like, first gen receivers? The interesting thing I learned from those viewgraphs is that ISDB carries with it a real penalty in C/N margin required, in benign multipath conditions. Like, 5 dB worse than 8-VSB, which I think is getting to the point of being a real issue. Especially in a country whose land mass is about half of the entire South American continent. ATSC did itself a heck of a disservice by pushing undeveloped products early on. That legacy is hard to shake. Also, one wonders why the patents on 8-VSB receivers are even valid anymore, when it seems obvious that some key early design concepts, e.g. the supposed advantage of being able to use real-only equalizers, training methods, did not pan out at all. If decent receivers can't be designed as originally intended by 8-VSB patent holders, there ought to be some recourse. Bert ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.