Off topic but interesting. http://www.patmedia.net/marklevinson/cool/cool_illusion.html http://users.ox.ac.uk/~kgroup/tools/media.shtml Bob Miller ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.