Larry; I guess you missed something in this, over the years. Nothing about the broadcaster's market is "preserved" by the SHVIA and SHVERA. Indeed, the opposite is the case; these acts describe how viwers may lawfully circumvent, if certain conditions exists, and they go through certain procedures, their (sometimes) exclusive, time-restricted license to the COPYRIGHT in some of the materils they air. Copyrights create EXCLUSIVE rights to materials, which the owners can use to license their materials. If you believe that consumers should be able to outbid local TV stations, or if you believe that copyrights are bunk, those are quite different matters. If you think that EchoStar and DirecTV o even cable should be able to compete directly with local TV stations, I'm all for that; let's overturn their compulsory copyright license under which they -- without paying market rates -- acquire broadcaster's licensed mateials for re-broadcast. I was and remain against the words of the SHVIA and SHVERA, although I'm sensitive to the needs that they address. EchoStar unlawfully used the acts to unfairly compete with broadcasters. If you think that's fair, that's another matter. If you think that SHVIA and SHVERA should be repealed so that broadcasters and satellite operations may compete for excluisve access to material, we are in complete agreement. But, any other idea creates an unlevel playing field, imputes level criteria for it and starts competition there. If you think that Copyrights should be eliminated, just propose a constitutional amendment. John Willkie Larry Bloomfield wrote: John: On the legal aspects of what you speak, you are right on target and 1005 correct, but I have to disagree with this whole concept and believe it should be changed. what I'm about to say will be perceived as treason or heresy by many. I believe this whole concept we now practice and supported by law, detracts from the good old Yankee concept of competition. Why should we promise or guarantee any broadcaster, let alone any business, any market? Households that wishes to look at any program material should be able to do so! You can go to a news stand and buy newspapers, which support themselves just like broadcasters with advertising - local and national. The public and I should be free to choose whatever station they/I wish to watch no matter where it is located, just like I can buy a newspaper from anywhere in the country, let alone anywhere in the world. If the local broadcasters want (my) allegiance then they don't they give me/us something I/we want to see or listen to, just like a local newspaper does? I know I'm tilting windmills and it will probably not happen in my time, but I think it should. : ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.