I would agree that the non-settlement between Fox and Echostar raises media-concentration and issues concerning News Corp's ownership of a national broadcast network, local stations and effectively, a controlling interest in DirectTV. However, it isn't what comes first to my mind. Imagine how much worse the situation would be worse if the FCC had been foolish enough to permit Charlie Ergen to own (effectively) Echostar and a controlling interest in DirecTV. Ponder just these two VERY CONTEMPORARY items: -- Echostar was adjudged to have WILFULLY infringed on Tivo's patents on DVR service, in a case where they decided to roll their own after they were given confidential system information by Tivo, which up to that point had been attempting to license their technology to Echostar. (The case is pending appeal, but Echostar has about as much chance of getting a reversal as they do keeping a cup of spit warm in a snowstorm.) -- Echostar was adjudged to have WILFULLY infringed on the contractual rights of network owned and other affiliate stations using FRAUDULENT engineering analyses (a friend of mine used to perform them, and he told me ocntemporaneousy that the criteria didn't match the rules). The trial judge (before whom the pending petition for injunctive relief lies) found that Echostar's contract and employee engineers were not believeable on the stand.) The judge ruled that they had to stop service to ILLEGAL customers at an indefinate point in the future. Echostar, the fools, appealed. The appeals court reversed the trial court, to the extent that they told Echostar to either settle with the plaintiffs, or they had to stop service to ILLEGAL and (the few) LEGAL customers on September 7. Echostar appealed, but their thin case won't be heard for months, the emergency appeal unavailing. In the meantime, Echostar's Charlie Ergen overplayed his hand, saying he would go to Congress, which has never held hearings on the matter in this Congress, and has to pass the federal budget and whatever else they can manage in the few legislative days left in this Congress. Fox's filing is just an attempt to play with the deadline by which Echostar must either pay what News Corp wants, or has to lose about $150 mm in annual revenue by cutting off the people that they have ILLEGALLY (and a few legally) provided network signals. Fox doesn't need to settle with them, since they have their own satellite footprint, but Echostar MUST settle with News Corp, or they will irreparably harm Echostar's business. One might even posit that ABC, CBS and NBC settled because they had a weaker hand -- lacking a satellite footprint -- than Fox. It also tends to validate Stanley Hubbard's position vis a vis USSB that broadcaster needed to get into the DBS business. With all due respect, Mark, to focus on the media-ownership "issue" is only somewhat more relevant than the thread hereabouts a while back where Philips patent to prevent users from tuning away from commercials (or emergency announcements) was opined (by others) to have broadcasters behind it, and something they were likely to use. Commercial television won't work if the viewers aren't happy with the fare. "TV Bondage" is not something that would benefit commercial broadcasting. Back to the instant cases I suspect that Echostar is negotiating the terms of surrender to News Corp, and I suspect there are "favored nations" clauses in the settlements between the other networks and Echostar, so a plentiful settlement could cost Echostar more than the $100mm they've agreed to pay the others. On the Tivo front, they could buy the company for about $700 mm instead of paying the $90 mm judgment and keep new Tivo users to themselves. That would raise a whole new set of issues, but one gets the impression that Ergen doesn't want to own IP, he only wants to steal it where he can, and for as long as he can. The next few days will be VERY interesting, in a bet-the-enterprise sort of way. With News Corp holding the best hand. John Willkie EtherGuide Systems P.S. In the interest of full disclosure, I would have serious problems being as assertive in writing on such a case were it the broadcasters who had infringed on Echostar's IP, since my customer base is broadcast stations and networks, and to a lesser extent, cable television. I wouldn't license anything to Echostar if they paid double up front and they were on the other side of a 100 foot pole. Mark Schubin wrote: I think this is an interesting example of media-ownership issues: http://www.multichannel.com/article/CA6367824.html TTFN, Mark ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.