Craig wrote:
> Exactly as I stated above. So if Android solved their problems, whywas Verizon willing to agree to the same terms as AT&T?
Bert replied
And who says they did? I have no idea what terms were discussed, however the implication from those quotes is clearly that Verizon now has MORE bargaining power, NOT less, as you prefer to believe. It is Apple that has less bargaining power now, than it did when it went to AT&T in 2007.
The articles I linked to did.The article you quoted from was published in 2010. It wrongly assumed that Verizon would have more bargaining power because the company had embraced Android Smart Phones.
The reality is that Verizon "agreed" to many of the concessions that Apple had originally asked for by embracing Android instead. Like the iPhone, Android runs apps and bypasses many of the proprietary services offered by the telcos.
By the time the AT&T iPhone exclusive was set to expire, Verizon DID agree to all of the original terms that Apple offered in 2007. They also agreed to the same pricing structure that AT&T pays. They agreed to sell the iPhone WITHOUT Verizon branding, and to allow Apple to control customer service of the devices.
AND they offered Apple MORE MONEY to keep the iPhone out of the hands of Sprint and T-Mobile.
Again I ask: Who has the power and the control? But wait... There's more. Verizon is now offering the Share everything plan to subscribers: http://solutions.vzwshop.com/shareeverything/?intcmp=VZW-VNT-SE-PLANRECMND This plan is DATA CENTRIC. It provides the following for up to 10 devices: Unlimited Voice Unlimited Text messaging Mobile Hotspot support And a "pool" of data that is shared between the devices on the planAs I said in a previous post, the consumer is now going to look at the wireless telcos in a manner similar to other ISP services: you will pay for the amount of data you use. The devices that you connect to the network will "control" what you can do...
NOT the telcos.
> How do you keep missing the fact that Apple is the most valuableconsumer electronics company in the world? How do you keep missing the fact that they garner the lions share of profits from virtually every market they enter.How is it that you don't see how hopeless you sound?I find the Apple business model to be distasteful. And I can only wonder why you gush over them, but rail against the congloms. I don't subscribe to any scheme that wants to tether me, unless there's no other practical alternative (e.g. the electric grid, or water and sewer service).
WOW Imagine that! Bert finds what Apple is doing distasteful. What a revelation! Know what Bert? This is exactly what competition is all about.You have a choice, and you choose to use computers and devices that COMPETE with Apple.
What's more, you are in the MAJORITY. Apple "controls" only a small (but growing) slice of the PC market. Apple controls a small segment of the Smartphone market.Apple DOES control the largest segments of the markets for tablets and music players. But there have been and continue to be competitors in these markets who brazenly copy everything Apple does.
It is ironic that you bought into the Wintel Duopoly, but totally reject the Media conglom/MVPD duopoly.
I guess this proves that you do support choice and competition, although your logic is sometimes difficult to understand.
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