[opendtv] Re: HDMI issues
- From: "Kilroy Hughes" <Kilroy.Hughes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 14:44:51 -0800
You could wait for Philips to respond to Jeroen's directive, but that
might take a couple weeks :-)
Or, you could buy or put together a Media Center PC with ATSC tuners (I
recommend at least 2). I just added a 500GB drive in mine for $300+
because I told it to record all Star Trek episodes, and it's been
collecting about 10 hours a day while I've been in other parts of the
world. I could access my machine via Web, review the EPG, reschedule
recordings, etc., but my preferred method of storage management is to
manage to have more of it. This system also has to hold thousands of CDs
and digital photos, and those aren't temporary (I hope).=20
Two tuners are essential so you can watch and record, and record
multiple overlapping shows simultaneously. I watch stored shows
(photos, music, radio, etc.) on other computers on the home network,
laptop on airplanes etc. (in Windows Media Player). 480P DVD-V scaled to
HD with 72Hz refresh looks mighty good. This system keeps track of 4:3
or 16:9 sources and frames them correctly on playback to my 16:9 HD
display ... a feature I appreciate. My Comcast PVR stretches everything
to 16:9, requiring manual remote control intervention for 4:3 content
from analog or digital cable channels.=20
Apple has something similar for playback, but last I heard they don't
support tuners. Seems they have this "iStore" the young people and
recently adopted broadcast executives are all excited about that doesn't
need tuners.
Kilroy Hughes
Sr. Media Architect
Digital Media Interoperability Team
Microsoft Corporation
-----Original Message-----
From: opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Manfredi, Albert E
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 08:14
To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [opendtv] Re: HDMI issues
Jeroen Stessen wrote:
>> BTW, I discovered that the Philips DVDR 75/17 doesn't
>> accept 480p, 720p, or 1080i component inputs for
>> recording, even though the player does output
>> progressive scan. The Accurian doesn't have a 480i
>> component out option to try. :(
>
> But our TV processing platform, e.g. PNX8550, will
> down-convert 480p or 720p or 1080i to 480i for you. Why
> pay for the same hardware twice ? After protecting the
> 480i with Macrovision we will let you record that.
Bravo, Jeroen.
So now, please go to your management with these requests:
1. Mate your PNX8550 to an ATSC demod. For example, the ST STV0370, and
an all-standards VHF/UHF tuner. Or contact Samsung for their Gemini
demod. Include CableCard for digital cable reception.
2. Package this in the DVDR3300H hard-disk and DVD recorder, or even
lowlier brothers of this box, like a hard drive-only and DVD-only
recorder.
3. For OTA or cable reception, for heaven's sake, *DISABLE* Macrovision
protection. The FCC has never allowed copy protection to stop
time-shifting, and that's not the purpose of the broadcast flag either.
It is an Internet redistribution prevention mechanism. So there's never
a valid excuse for a recorder, and especially a hard drive recorder
which is really only meant for time shifting, to prevent copying an OTA
signal. (This might not apply to CGMS-A.)
4. Market these boxen in the US. If priced right, which means less than
the $1000 Sony is charging for their new DTT/cable DVR, if it performs
well, and if it's advertized just a little, it will sell. Especially as
we approach 2009.
(I've discovered that frequently, NTSC OTA stations transmit with
Macrovision, which prevents the DVDR 75/17 from recording. Ditto for a
colleague of mine who has this same recorder, although he didn't know it
was a copy protection problem. He thought his box was bad and was
blaming Philips. I've contacted both NBC and CBS about this, and they
both denied doing any such thing on purpose. However, after being made
aware of the problem, it seems to stop happening. Fox and UPN also have
done this occasionally.)
It's high time we get some reasonably priced DTT recording devices in
the US market.
Grazie, Jeroen. I guarantee at least two sales of this box! And you can
put all the DVB-T, CableCard, and ATSC logos on it together!
Bert
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