So, the question of the day is: are those sites lacking in W3C compliance, or is it the browser that is not W3C compliant? Back a decade ago, it was IE that was not fully W3C compliant. These days, I believe it's Mozilla/Netscape that lacks W3c compliance. It's been a few years since I designed a web site and ran pages through the W3c validator, then tested them against all common browsers, and obscure ones like the Netscape implementations. I found that fully W3c validated web pages would create problems with Netscape, and not with IE. Netscape, I was told, was unhappy with the W3C, and so held up any "Microsoft inspired" changes in the spec. For me, the tipping point was with IE 3.0, the most obvious helpful feature it offered was "auto-complete" where it remembered web sites and pages you visited, and would complete the common ones, or offer a selection of choices. Apparently, Netscape, with the Mozilla and Gekko engines, never tried to see what new things were in IE. Because, it wasn't until Netscape 6.0 (bloatware, like all Netscape installations after 1.2) some five years later, they offered this helpful feature. I had been Netscape all along, until IE 3.0 made life easier. I may want to encourage usurpers, but not at ALL costs. Now, Doug, to bring it back to religious differences, you are a Mac user, no? And, so, your computer lacks Active X compatibility, does it not? John Willkie -----Original Message----- From: opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Doug McDonald Sent: Monday, July 05, 2004 4:31 PM To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [opendtv] Re: It's Active X, not IE --- John Willkie <johnwillkie@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > I find Netscape 7.1 Mozilla is not Netscape 7.1. Netscape 7.1 is in part Mozilla, but not vice versa. I've been using Mozilla for a couple of months and it is really excellent. There are only a very few sites it does not work with, including the Ancestry.com native census viewer and the Sorenson Molecular Genetics Foundation search page. Doug McDonald ===== Doug McDonald my last name at scs dot uiuc dot edu, not here at Yahoo, please __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - Send 10MB messages! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.