[opendtv] Re: Migration to Internet-delivered TV
- From: Craig Birkmaier <craig@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2015 06:40:51 -0500
> On Mar 5, 2015, at 7:55 PM, Manfredi, Albert E <albert.e.manfredi@xxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
> Craig Birkmaier wrote:
>
>> Sorry, but the fact that a large percentage of the
>> population can stream SD quality video does not mean
>> that they are doing this enough to change the mix of
>> OTT versus traditional linear streams from MVPDs and
>> FOTA broadcasters.
>
> Of course it does, and it also means that at times of day when people are not
> at home watching TV, the Internet has become more than capable of carrying
> the load.
Your insufferable!
Just because the Internet is capable of doing something does not mean it is
happening. It's as if you are saying that Amazon is capable of handling 95% of
all our shopping needs, so we can stop building shopping centers...
> And by the way, even if much of the load throughout the day is not purely TV
> material, but for instance other video, what matters is that the Internet is
> capable of carrying that load. More TV watching, e.g. during prime time
> hours, will be balanced by less watching of the other stuff. You're simply
> not getting how the demand is met, in this type of network. You seem to be
> thinking in legacy broadcast network terms.
>
Let's assume you are correct that the Internet can scale to meet much higher
levels of demand. Please tell us when 50% of all TV entertainment will be
delivered OTT. Not some vague bulls#^% that it can do it now Bert. A real date
when we will reach 50%.
>
> Craig! We know the reasons. The point is that this sharp and accelerating
> increase in demand *is being met*. No one is waiting, as you seem to be, for
> some magical threshold to be breached.
People are waiting for many reasons Bert. It has nothing to do with magic
thresholds. It has everything to do with habit and culture.
> The essential thresholds have already been passed, for carriage of TV
> material, and now the bottlenecks are attacked on a case by case basis, as
> they emerge. In real time, practically. I explained how this is done already,
> and you seem to be stuck thinking in legacy broadcast network terms.
No I am stuck in reality most U.S. Homes still subscribe to Linear streaming
MVPD service. That's a fact, not some fantasy world you wish for.
>
> Craig, so now pay attention. What this proves is that it wasn't your
> connection speed that was the problem. I've already explained to you how
> glitches often occur, especially with ad breaks, how they occur for one OTT
> site but not the others, how an update of Flash will eventually fix the
> problem, and how later some other fancy ad-break protocol will start the
> cycle again. In short, the problem is LACK OF DISCIPLINE. You didn't get it
> when I first said it, so here we are having to repeat it again. Lack of
> discipline when deploying new protocols, Craig. Lack of testing. Lack of
> accountability.
FOTF
Don't worry, Flash will fix everything...
Lack of HD for Bert because he has slow broadband.
>
>
>
> As I said, the volume of content is all that matters, not whether it's TV or
> a game. Wireless is far more challenging than fixed broadband, Craig.
Challenging?
I just checked my AT&T LTE speed - 21.83 Mbps
Plenty for HD video streaming Bert.
The challenge is that his is a metered service - we have four phones on our
plan that share 10 GBytes of data a month. If we used this service to watch TV,
it would be far more expensive than a cable MVPD package...
But wait, we have Cox broadband which is not metered. We DO stream HD
entertainment from Netflix and TVE sites, but prefer the Cox MVPD bundle for
most of our TV watching. You can just call us - and millions of others
Luddites.
>> The reality is simple people are increasingly using OTT
>> video services in addition to the traditional video services
>> to which they subscribe.
>
> More or less a feel-good banality. The reality is, Craig, that people are
> dropping traditional service, or SHAVING traditional service (which amounts
> to the same thing), in accelerating numbers. The reality is that many MVPDs
> and many content owners are responding to this RIGHT NOW, rather than sitting
> back as you seem to do.
If it makes you feel good Bert.
Please let us know when 50% of all TV viewed in the U.S. Will be delivered via
the iInternet.
>
>
> I'm only worked up by your astonishing misinterpretation of what is happening
> and misunderstanding of the technical details involved. Just as I was at the
> beginning of the HDTV era, Craig. I get worked up over insistent and
> persistent misrepresentation of facts.
>
You are the person with the astonishing misunderstanding of what it takes to
fundamentally change consumer behavior Bert. The facts tell us what I have been
saying all along. We are in the middle of a slow evolutionary change in the way
TV entertainment is delivered and consumed. The evolution began when we were
kids Bert, and it will still be evolving when our grandkids grow up.
Please note our first grandson -Carter Jackson Arnold - was born February 24th.
>> There is nothing false about it Bert. Most of the world DOES NOT
>> watch HDTV.
>
> It was false, from day 1, to think that the US version of spectrum-compatible
> HDTV was meant as some sort of luxury service. It was false, right from the
> start, to claim that HDTV sets would cost in the 10s of thousands of dollars.
> It was definitely false, by the mid-2000s, to continue on that notion that
> HDTV was a niche product. This sort of obstinacy is what gets me worked up,
> especially when it's pronounced as though it's being simultaneously etched in
> stone.
Look at your absurd argument here. Nothing you said addresses the reality that
most of the world still does not watch HDTV. Nothing addresses the reality that
YOU do not watch HDTV via your slow broadband service.
>
> Hey Craig, I can get thousands of live streams from wwitv.com.
There you go again. Hulu does not offer live streams. Please stay on subject.
Wwitv.com does not provide access to the live streams I can access via a MVPD
bundle. You keep eating baloney...
I like steak.
> Does that make it a VMVPD? I can get live streams from CBS All Access. Does
> that make it a VMVPD? Live streams can be added to Hulu whenever they please,
> Craig. Live streams are no differentiator for "VMVPD."
By DEFINITION, they ARE what differentiates a VMVPD service from a SVOD service.
Hulu cannot add live streams whenever they please. They do not have the rights
to do this, and since they are owned by the content congloms who are still
relying on the MVPDs to deliver these streams it is not likely this will change
any time soon. Hulu is designed as a catch-up SVOD service.
Regards
Craig
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