[opendtv] Re: NTIA: National Broadband Map has Helped Chart Broadband Evol
- From: "Manfredi, Albert E" <albert.e.manfredi@xxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2015 00:19:04 +0000
Craig Birkmaier wrote:
You have good reason to be skeptical. Government data is usually spun
for some objective.
Just like Craig's data is always spun. But seriously, I take govt data at face
value. You guys need to deal with the govt if you can show it to be wrong.
One must question what would happen to those 25/3 speeds, if everyone
signed up tomorrow and started watching Netflix.
Which is not physically possible. These things take some amount of time. As we
saw, though, Netflix was not averse to installing its own servers.
Parenthetically, I might be one of few households left in our neighborhood
WITHOUT FiOS or Cox. But the days of DSL are numbered, clearly. As I said,
Verizon is not repairing DSL, they say, if anything goes amiss.
Thanks for the reality check Kilroy
Yes, that's what I was expecting from Craig, which puts this whole thread back
for several revolutions of the cycle.
Craig, pay attention: I never implied that all TV traffic would have to go
through the backbone, quite the opposite.
You don't HAVE to get stuff out to the servers over the backbone
network. This also holds true for live content. Use out of band to
go as far out to the edge as necessary.
Thank you Bert. Perhaps there is a glimmer of hope for you yet.
Aaargh! Go back to any post of mine, and show me where I haven't already
explained this time and time and time and time again, Craig. Please do.
Uhhhh ... Flash is still in the mix Kilroy mentioned. It did not
make life any easier, it was just another codec and set of files to
maintain.
Except you missed what Kilroy was getting at. The problem is the silly
proliferation of protocols. Flash was the first cross-platform web streaming
solution. The others came after. So Flash was the lingua franca, and it was
supported even by Android initially. Then Apple decided not to support Flash on
mobile or even AppleTV, and then Android did a "me too." But as I said, even
this isn't catastrophic, because it isn't the backbone that necessarily has to
carry all these redundant streams. It has become the job of the CDNs to support
this.
But Kilroy is correct, it still requires many options to support
many devices that get many levels of network QOS.
Kilroy was lamenting the state of chaos, not supporting it. This is the quote
from Kilroy:
"Still, it won't be adequate for projected video growth **unless cache
efficiency is optimized by reducing the number of redundant encodings
required** ..."
Did you get that part that I emphasized? It *always* scales better when
everyone uses the same standard. Imagine how the Internet would work if this
weren't the case. Imagine if every tom, dick, and harry used their own
proprietary packet headers and routing protocols. Same applies to codecs and
streaming protocols, and everything else. This IS NOT TO SAY that different
streaming protocols CANNOT be sent over the Internet, Craig. This is to say,
**that approach does not scale well**.
Bert
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