[opendtv] Re: News: Is Apple Planning A Move Against Ogg Theora?

  • From: Craig Birkmaier <craig@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 07:46:25 -0400

At 4:22 AM -0400 5/4/10, Tom Barry wrote:
Kon Wilms wrote:
 On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 1:17 PM, Craig Birkmaier <craig@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
 In all likelihood it will be MPEG-LA or a few of the usual suspects (not
 Apple) who will go after Ogg and anyone else who tries to create a royalty
 free video codec. They went after Microsoft, which tried to give VC-3 to
 SMPTE.

 Just another reason to add to the laundry list as to why our patent
 system needs to be dissolved.

 Cheers
 Kon

The strongest agreement here.  There is great cost and little public
benefit in allowing abstract patents on mathematical algorithms,
business practices, and especially software.  We should stop this
immediately.


Looks like something we can all agree on here!

When I attended my first ISO/MPEG meeting in the early '90s I was amazed at the number of participants, relative to the number of people actually doing the real work. The full group meetings filled a hall with hundreds of people. I asked a colleague about this and was told that the whole point was for these (mostly) engineers to pounce on any opportunity to get their Intellectual Property into the standard, OR to block others from getting theirs into the standard.

I came into the MPEG-2 process after the standard was approved. What I learned was that a relatively small group of companies and institutions, many Japanese, a few European, and a few from the U.S., invested heavily in developing the standard and controlling the IP. Much of the new IP created for MPEG-2 was little more than a restatement of concepts developed in the '60s and '70s that were moving into the public domain; and there was a large amount of IP created for the encoding of interlace, which eventually found its way into h.264 as well.

There is a bit of good news here. Most of this IP was patented in the 1990 - 1992 time frame. Many of these patents will expire soon, and many will be irrelevant moving forward as interlace begins to fade to block...

Regards
Craig


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