[opendtv] Re: Streaming Media.com: What is Streaming?

  • From: Craig Birkmaier <brewmastercraig@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2015 19:49:15 -0500

Nothing new here...

Regards
Craig

On Nov 26, 2015, at 7:25 PM, Albert Manfredi <albert.e.manfredi@xxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

Craig wrote:

What it does say is that broadcasters started using Flash quickly, and that
by 2007, to try to "stem the tide," Microsoft introduced Silverlight. So,
what do you suppose all this traffic created by the "broadcasters" was?

Mostly promos for their shows, and behind the scene stuff. These were all
short
clips.

That's completely false, and I again wonder how you slept through this
period. You might want to read this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BBC_iPlayer

The original iPlayer was launched in 2005, for trials, and then finally in
July of 2007. It was much ballyhooed in the trade press at the time. I
remember quite clearly wondering, why the big deal? US congloms had been
doing this without all the fanfare. I might have even mentioned that on this
list. No, not the same solution for all the congloms, their web sites looked
different from one another, but that catch-up service was certainly available
already, in the US.

Not unlike my current questioning of how the trade press over-hypes the
little limited-use streaming boxes. Same sort of cluelessness. Or at least,
if not plain old cluelessness, the same apparent inability to put these news
stories IN PERSPECTIVE. As in, even while over-hyping one product or
solution, how about providing the reader with an idea of the context, the
universe of options out there?

But I paid for those
programs, and they were protected by Apple's DRM.

So what? DRM was not an obstacle. Read the article on the iPlayer. Here's a
quote:

"During the 2005 and 2006 iPlayer trials, the digital rights management (DRM)
system used was based on Microsoft's Windows Media DRM, which led to concerns
about cross-platform availability, as this technology is available only for
Windows XP."

DRM was already accommodated, from the start, on Windows platforms.

The fact remains that I cannot find any evidence that the broadcast networks
started streaming FOTI in 2005 or 2006.

You can find no evidence that US congloms began streaming on any other date,
so your objection is moot. The bulk of the evidence tells the story.
Streaming media was well accepted in those mid-2000s, was being used quite a
bit already, and many companies wanted to play in the field. Not just for
short video clips or promos, Craig.

It took several years
after 2007 for many sites like CBS to move to h.264. For a fairly long
period
sites hosted video files in both VP6 and h.264 - a few still do.

Fine, and that changes nothing. At a certain point, whenever it was, the
congloms began using H.264, and I started having playback problems on the old
WinXP machine. And it's very likely that the playback problems occurred on
one conglom's site but not another. No issue here.

As I have noted several times, the U.S. content congloms did not start
streaming full length programs until there was strong content protection
(DRM)
to prevent theft.

Yes, and I continued to ignore this, because I couldn't figure out why you
thought this was an issue. It was not an issue, Craig. DRM existed back then.

Bert

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