Manfredi, Albert E wrote: >Mark Schubin wrote: > > > >>Hmm.=20 >> >>Dale talked about the UK. I talked about the UK. Stephen >>Birkill talked about the UK. And you have provided info >>about Italy. >> >> > >I have always referred to Italy and France when talking about >low power transmitters, to try to dispell the notion that >there's something magical going on with COFDM. (Mostly from >Bob Miller, but others have suggested similar wonders.) > >When you look at France and Italy, that's where you see >transmitters for PAL and for DVB-T in the 10s of KW ERP. As >Stephen indicated, the situation in the UK is different, >because in fact PAL transmitters can be up in the 0.5 MW to >1 MW ERP region. The DTT transmitter that covers London >might be lower power, but that doesn't mean coverage of the >UK to match PAL with DVB-T would necessarily be with 10s of >KW ERP, where PAL was more like 1 MW. There's no implied >magic. > >In France, they are still rather fluid as to how to deploy >DTT. They are talking about "portable" capability, for which >they expect to have to assist the Eiffel Tower transmitter >(35 KW) with other tramsmitters, including possibly very >low power gap fillers. Because as is, they say about 40 >percent of Paris can achieve indoor reception, closer in to >the Eiffel Tower. They define "portable" as "with indoor >antennas." I already showed where the closest translator >site to the Eiffel Tower was, and it was Mantes. Just under >30 miles to the west of the Eiffel Tower. So, nothing magic >there. > >We can do the same with RAI. Translator sites are scattered >throughout the country, including two to cover Rome. > >This is all about introducing some measure of reality and to >compare apples with apples. I think I've been more than fair >in specifying power levels and expected coverage, when >making comparisons, where others have been happier to let a >veil of mystery lie over the discussion. > >The information is all public. There's no reason to >obfuscate. > >Bert > The public information about the UK transmitters is here. They have 480 I think for digital or six each at 80 sites. The most powerful are at 20 kW and the average is around 3 kW. I believe there are 28 at 20 kW, 2 at 15 kW, 46 at 10kW, 13 at 8 kW, 2 at 7 kW, 10 at 6 kW, 19 at 5 kW, 27 at 4 kW, 10 at 3 kW, 60 at 2 kW, 65 at 1 kW and the difference, 98 or so at something less than 1 kW. The most popular power level seems to be 1 kW with 65 transmitters. http://www.wolfbane.com/ukdtt.htm Bob Miller ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.