On Thursday 06 November 2014 10:05:28 David Davis wrote: > On balance, whilst the PDF format obviously excels at doing something > like exactly replicating a physical book layout, one section per page > is probably more useful for people reading it on a screen. > Another handy PDF feature are 'bookmarks', which most PDF readers can > display down a pane on the left-hand side. Usually they map to logical > headings in the document - if this includes section numbers, it will > make the PDF version quite nice to navigate Yes, definitely. The current drafts sitting on my harddisk already have such a table of contents. I'll try to upload some of those drafts to my staff folder this weekend. Regards, Ingo > On 4 November 2014 22:44, Ingo Kloecker <projectaon@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > [I reply to my own message, but I quote Jon's reply from the "Create > > A Font" thread because I want to keep the PDF discussion in this > > thread.]> > > On Monday 03 November 2014 14:56:53 Jonathan Blake wrote: > > > This has been a helpful discussion for me. I agree, Ingo, that > > > publishing a format designed for printing makes very little sense. > > > I've got a reputation with my coworkers as the guy who never uses > > > paper. That's not wholly true, but there's almost never a single > > > piece of paper on my desk. What I'm saying is that someone > > > printing out their own books seems like something we don't > > > necessarily want to support. > > > > > > On the other hand, PDF is nearly ubiquitous in a way that EPUB and > > > other eBook formats are not, it would be a lot more convenient for > > > non-savvy readers who wanted to download the books for offline > > > reading than our current ZIP files, and it could showcase > > > high-res versions of the illustrations (assuming we can > > > effectively vectorize them). > > > > > > I think the biggest barrier to implementation of PDF has been the > > > original desire to produce print-ready files with hand-corrected > > > pagination. If we relax that requirement and simply publish them > > > the > > > way LaTeX generates them, would that remove our biggest obstacle? > > > > It would make publishing a bit easier, but the PDFs still need some > > love. > > > > > What are the technical obstacles? > > > > The main obstacle is setting everything up. But that needs to be > > done > > only once (unless an OS upgrade breaks something). Once the setup is > > done it's mostly a lot of little details that need to be done for > > every book, like replacing the images of the weapons and equipment > > with scalable images, rotating and positioning some of the large > > images (which originally have been two page images), optimizing the > > layout of the map, some page break optimization, illustration > > caption optimization (the hardcoded line breaks in the captions > > don't really work that good for the PDFs), etc. > > > > > > BTW, if we want to put the focus of the PDFs on offline reading > > rather than printing then we could think about using a different > > layout for the numbered sections. I had the idea to put each > > numbered section on a different page. This would make the look and > > feel of the PDFs more like the multi-page HTML version. This layout > > has the advantage that reading one numbered section does not spoil > > other numbered sections that also happen to be on the same page. > > This layout would also avoid most problems with suboptimal page > > breaks in the numbered section part of the books because most > > numbered sections are too short to be affected by a page break. > > OTOH, this layout would give the PDFs a very different look and > > feel than the actual books. Anyway, that was just an idea for the > > PDFs that crossed my mind. I'm not really sure whether it's a > > useful idea. > > > > > > Regards, > > Ingo > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~ > > Manage your subscription at http://www.freelists.org/list/projectaon ~~~~~~ Manage your subscription at http://www.freelists.org/list/projectaon