Hi Joanann, Not sure if you are working or in education, but remember the workplace adaptation grant is available if you needed the display for work. Its administered by Fas and I believe you can claim up to around 6000 euro every 3 years. Tim -----Original Message----- From: vicsireland-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:vicsireland-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Joan Ann Brosnan Sent: 21 November 2011 22:11 To: vicsireland@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [vicsireland] Re: Braille displays Hi Thanks to you all for your thoughts on my questions regarding the Braille display. I can definitely see the advantages of having a Braille display in terms of editing and, I do find that, when I read something in Braille, I tend to remember it a lot better than when I just hear it with Jaws. The main thing that is putting me off now is the price of the Braille displays so, fingers crossed I win the lotto *smile*. Joan Ann. -----Original Message----- From: vicsireland-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:vicsireland-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mairead O Mahony Sent: 21 November 2011 21:35 To: vicsireland@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [vicsireland] Re: Braille displays Hi Joan Ann, I got a loan of a braille display for a while in college and while I can see the huge advantage of not having to carry braille documents around with me and being able to access any document on the computer with it I found it slowed down my reading. I use to turn off Jaws but still found I got distracted with what I was reading as you can only read very little material on each line of the braille display and I found that when I had to move to the next line I couldn't comprehend the document as much as if I was reading a physical sheet of braille. I would love to have one of these machines but don't feel I could justify the use for it as I can read through braille sheets much faster than using a braille display. I think getting one of these machines depends on what option people prefer to go for. Regards Mairead On 11/21/11, Flor Lynch <florlync@xxxxxx> wrote: > Joan Ann, > > I would agree with what Tim and john have said. I would add that I use > both speech and braille. if i want to read over something I find > particularly interesting (or curious, even), or for the detail, I may > read it in Braille without speech. When you read an item in Braille > you certainly get a more immediate 'grasp' of what and how the person > wrote, punctuation and spelling.) > > If presentation and style are very important, then having Braille to > monitor the work will be a plus. Much also depends on your braile > reading speed, which will be a little or a lot slower on your braille > display (depending on its ease of use and how well you've mastered > navigating with it). As with most things, you will find you get faster > with practice. It is good to have alternatives: so if you can get > braille, then go for it. many displays also have extra keys with which > (thanks to the screen-reader drivers) you can navigate and tab around > lists, tree views and dialogues - with or without speech. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Joan Ann Brosnan" <kerrygirl18@xxxxxxxxx> > To: "vicsireland" <vicsireland@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 2:07 PM > Subject: [vicsireland] Braille displays > > >> Hi all >> I am just wondering how many of you on the list who read Braille use >> a Braille display in work and, if so, do you think that it makes it >> easier than listening to speech output all the time? >> Is it possible to navigate the screen using just the Braille display >> and is it as efficient as using speech? >> >> Thanks for any help. >> >> Joan Ann. >> =========================================================== >> The vicsireland mailing list >> >> To unsubscribe at any time send a mail to: >> >> vicsireland-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >> with the word "unsubscribe", without the quotes in the subject of the >> message. >> >> To contact the moderator send mail to: >> >> tim.j.culhane@xxxxxxxxx >> >> For mor information on the Visually Impaired Computer Society visit: >> >> http://www.vicsireland.org >> >> > > =========================================================== > The vicsireland mailing list > > To unsubscribe at any time send a mail to: > > vicsireland-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > with the word "unsubscribe", without the quotes in the subject of the > message. > > To contact the moderator send mail to: > > tim.j.culhane@xxxxxxxxx > > For mor information on the Visually Impaired Computer Society visit: > > http://www.vicsireland.org > > =========================================================== The vicsireland mailing list To unsubscribe at any time send a mail to: vicsireland-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe", without the quotes in the subject of the message. 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