Hi Joanne, Yeah, Very interesting, it is totally different to X.P. Two points from your post I would like to make. Firstly I had an opportunity to use a p.c. with Windows 7 and it is somewhat quirky until you get used to it although the idea of writing in documents/control panel etc is quite handy. I wen on to use outlook on the same pc and found it somewhat difficult to get used to it as the menu options were placed differently toa point. besides the usual menues of file, edit view, etc a lot of the options which were normally found on the usual menus were now found in a menu called office such as send option which was normally under the tools menu. I think that this would deserve a lesson such as you hve done in the start menu of windows 7 as it would help the less p.c. knowledgable person. Secondly, with regard to this, do vics have any liaison with the computer instructors in N.C.B.I. ? I might be over stepping the mark here and Stewart might wish to repremand me as it would be more his area. Do you know if there is an actual training module for computer trainers that gives them an insight into using jaws with the different operating systems without visually reading the screen to instruct students. Also is there a base level enterance test for instructors to check their ability to teach effectively how to use computers. This is not a criticism but a query. The technology is changing so quickly that if we have problems at times geting our heads around new operating systems etc, Instructors will have even greater tasks to translate everything into a easy learning curve for students.. * Is it possible to turn off the ribbon menu option in outlook and revert to the old menu type options? Gerryin ----- Original Message ----- From: Joan Ann Brosnan To: VICS Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 12:42 PM Subject: [vicsireland] How to customize the start menu in Windows 7 Hi all I have recently started using windows 7. It is quite different from windows XP which I have changed from. One of the big differences is the layout of the start menu so, I have written up instructions about how you can customize the start menu to make it a little easier to navigate with jaws. 1. Press the windows key. You will be placed in a search box. Type "taskb" and windows will auto-complete the rest of the words "taskbar and start menu". 2. Press control and tab once to get to the start menu page. You are now on the customize button. To confirm this, you can press insert and tab. Press enter. 3. You are now in a tree view. There are a list of items that you can choose to have displayed on the start menu. You can also choose how you want them to be displayed. Some items have the sub-options Display As A Link, Display As A Menu, and Don't Display This Item. Display As A Link specifies that an item, such as Control Panel, will appear as a link that opens a window when selected. Display As A Menu specifies that an item will provide access to a submenu that allows you to choose from its related options. Don't Display This Item removes the item from the Start menu. The first option is the computer. You can choose to have it displayed as a link or as a menu meaning that, when you go to the start menu, computer will either be shown as a link that you can enter on to get access to drives or a sub-menu giving you easy access to drives by pressing the right arrow. You can also do this with: The control panel Documents downloads games music the personal folder pictures recorded TV search other files and libraries You can navigate through this list using the down arrow keys and, when you come to the option you want to use, press space to check it. There is also an option to turn on/off the run command and the favourites menu. 4. When you have finished, tab to ok and press enter. Then, tab to apply to save all changes. Joan Ann.