And the application name in the error is definitely 'symn' Are you sure you have the correct spelling? -----Original Message----- From: vicsireland-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:vicsireland-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of maureen newell Sent: 09 January 2007 15:56 To: vicsireland@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [vicsireland] Re: Simn prob Sometimes I am closing them, more times I have to close because e/mails won't read due to this problem.