Hi Just a note to say well done to Stuart Lawler for lifting the list on assistive technology to listeners of the John Murray Show. He really demonstrated the skill visually impaired people have with computers and how easily accessible computers are other technologies are now. A lot of sighted people still think visually impaired people can't use a computer, so Stuart's interview did a lot to debunk the myth. And I'm sure all our lives are richer for knowing how to 'noggle.' By the way, Stuart, is that noggle thing the same as the KNFB reader? Best wishes, Derbhile