Instrument Bank?
On 07/09/15 15:39, Jonathan Brickman wrote:
I'm hip to "Instrument" remaining, it is true that it being of original
vintage it works :-) I have to agree that "Parameters" does not work
for me, whereas "Patchset" seems to be rather nice and helpful. The
only alternative to "Patchset" I can think of, in appropriate context,
might be "Instrument Set", which would be in keeping with context, and
which as importantly, is probably more friendly towards new users. I am
certain that given that we have "Instruments", "Instrument Set" does
seem more straightforward to me.
Concerning instances. It has been mixing together in my mind the last
24 :-) Would it be simplest overall to set it up thusly (and using
"Instrument Set" instead of "Patchset):
* We don't have "instances", we just have "Instrument Sets" which are
named, and the ability to load more than one at once.
* When a single Instrument Set is loaded, it has the default
instrument set name, a string, possibly "InstrumentSet001".
* The default instrument set name is automatically applied to every
single-instrument-set Yoshimi load, unless changed in the XMZ.
* When multiple instances are loaded, the instrument set name of loads
after the first, is incremented by 1 automatically if needed to
prevent collision.
* The default instrument set name, unincremented, is automatically
saved within every XMZ file, unless it is explicitly changed by the
user.
By the above, we combine the simplest logic I can thus far imagine to do
the job, with automatic setup giving us known predictable results, with
full capability to design one's own multi-instrument-set setup with
custom names for everything. One would need to add one XMZ-file field,
the "Instrument Set Name" field, and a GUI place to set this. But we're
already starting numbered instances from within Yoshimi, correct?
Yoshimi menu / New instance with id ?
Concerning edit-window automatically opening. I think it is true that a
checkbox might be quite helpful, for the times when we need to be
editing a lot.
J.E.B.
On Sun, Sep 6, 2015 at 6:25 PM, Will Godfrey
<willgodfrey@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:willgodfrey@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
On Sun, 6 Sep 2015 17:14:12 -0500
Jonathan Brickman <jeb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:jeb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> Hmmmm. Will, I'm glad you're thinking about the vocabulary, it has been a
> problem for me. Here's some thought. It will need improvement, because
> Yoshimi is big enough that I cannot use most of its capability!, and it is
> possible that what we really need to do is take some or all of my words
and
> use responses to my below to start a Lexicon for the docs wiki. Anyhow,
> here's what I have in my head:
>
> 1. Patch. I think of a "patch" as one of the saved
configuration-entities
> in Yoshimi which has a name (not just a filename) set and visible within
> Yoshimi, and which can admit of a position in a bank. Yoshimi itself
calls
> this an "Instrument" at this time, and saves it in an .xiz file. I
> personally cannot use the term "instrument" for this in my thinking, but
> then again my first synth experience was on a 1978 MiniMoog whose manual I
> had almost memorized once :-)
Yes, that's a bit unfortunate, but the term 'Instrument' has been
used since
the beginning of Zyn. and does actually describe exactly what it is
from a
musical point of view. The term 'Patch' came from the wired patch
panels on the
original modular synths!
> 2. Patchset. I haven't used this word yet I don't think, but if I did, I
> would tend to think of it as the same as a saved-state of Yoshimi.
Yoshimi
> calls this "Parameters", and saves it in an .xmz file. I do like
> "patchset" for this, it seems to work well for me. However, there is
> another item worth discussing with it:
Although 'Parameters' has also been around from the start, nobody
I've spoken to
is comfortable with the term. Also 'Patchset' looks very similar as
well as
being more in keeping with what people recognise.
> 3. Instance. Here is a place I get confused. Am I correct that one
> parameter-set (patchset) cannot include more than one instance? Even
> regardless of the answer, perhaps we might want to invent something like
an
> instance-set, defined as a collection of one or more named patchsets, to
> handle multi-instance situations, and make overall setup easier to handle?
> The concept of a patchset-name would also have to be invented (right now
> it's filenames only), but we could simply say that the patchset-name is
the
> same as the instance-ID and be done with it. Also, we might want a
> command-line method by which we can start up multiple instances by name,
> calling multiple .xmz files :-)
I've thought about auto-starting instances, or by remote command
(such as
MIDI). I've also thought about the idea of a group patchset or, more
likely, a
single group command which consists of instance number + patchset
filename +
location. The main issue is whether there's a way to start numbered
instances
from within a running yoshi!
> Not sure I would open an instrument's edit window automatically (by
default
> anyhow), sounds a bit dangerous :-)
My thought too. But the question was asked, so I thought I'd put it
up on the
list for comments.
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