Re: [yoshimi-user] MIDI learn/ RMB dial assign and mouse-over keyboard fine tune

  • From: cal <cal@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: yoshimi-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sat, 22 May 2010 14:46:50 +1000

On 14/05/10 04:24, allcoms wrote:

Hi Yoshimi users and devs!

First- fantastic project you have here serving a very good cause you
are serving in continuing the development of everyones fave free
softsynth! Secondly, I'll apologise in advance if my suggestions have
already been discussed as I haven't read the archives of this list but
I must confess I'm extremely excited of the possibilties of using
yoshimi with the soon-to-arrive Ardour 3, especially if these
suggested tweaks take shape.

In a vague sort of way, I think the prospects of the Ardour + yoshimi
relationship
were behind the attempts to improve the midi latency. Rosegarden is truly
wonderful,
but for a while I've had a vague feeling that a more intimate pairing with
Ardour
might facilitate good things.
The real, painful shortcoming of zyn for me was its inability for you
to be able to right-click on any dial or slider and then enter a
controller value or click a 'MIDI learn/ detect' button. If this one
feature alone could be implemented, yoshimi would instantly become
massively more powerful and useful.

A real nice idea, and I will give it some thought. Would you care to expand on
how
'MIDI learn/ detect' should/might behave?
The second problem that should be easy to implement/fix is was zyns
lack of a way of precisely adjusting dials/sliders without the use of
a mouse. What you should be able to do is mouse-over the dial/slider
you wish to adjust and then be able to use the arrow keys to precisely
fine tune that value or type a new one.

Totally agree, and again I can only promise to think about it, maybe even play
about with
it some time soon. I've said a few times that I really don't enjoy gui work,
and tend to
avoid it wherever possible (until things really irritate me). Definitely worth
some
thought & experimentation though.

Third and final is the GUI. The current one could do with a facelift.
I like fltk and it would be nice if fltk was used again but the GUI
should ideally be usable on an average netbook (1024x600ish) display
and also have a mode for hi-res, large desktop studio displays. QT4
would be the obvious other choice of toolkit for a new GUI and then we
might see yoshimi (and qtractor) for Haiku too!

Ah yes, it simply screams for a nice Qt gui, and I've certainly thought about
what it
would take. And what it would take is a quite a massive effort. At surface
level,
you think "yeah, wouldn't be all that hard", but then when you start looking at
the
number and complexity of screens involved at the lower levels of instrument and
effects
management, it's definitely a _huge_ task, way beyond my capabilities (and
ambitions).

On the netbook display issue - could you clarify what you see as the current
limitations?

cheers, Cal


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