[access-uk] Re: 64 bit systems
- From: Tristram Llewellyn <tristram.llewellyn@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "'access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'" <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 16:05:52 +0000
I've seen JAWS run in XP mode on a customer PC but I personally wouldn't
recommend it really. The problem I saw was that you must unload the JAWS on
the host machine before launching JAWS on the virtual machine, otherwise things
get a weird. I don't know why it should think it is in a remote session though.
Interesting tip about the VMWare player though.
Regards.
Tristram Llewellyn
Technical Support
Sight and Sound Technology
-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
chris hallsworth
Sent: 07 June 2011 16:03
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: 64 bit systems
Hi Tristram and all.
I just want to say that the last time I tried JAWS in Windows XP Mode,
it simply wouldn't run, because it claims that the application is not
authorized to run in a terminal session. What happens is that you are
not in an actual terminal session, however Virtual PC causes a behaviour
that is similar to a terminal session, hence JAWS apparently getting
confused. The workaround is to run XP Mode in a program like VMware
Player, a free virtualization solution that supports Windows XP Mode, as
well as the ability to create and run your own virtual machines. JAWS
works fine on all Windows guests, apart from Vista and 7 and their
server counterparts. The JAWS Mirror Driver conflicts with the VMware
SVGA graphics adaptor, causing a blue screen and a general crashing of
the guest operating system.
Sorry for the long post. I just wanted to share my experiences.
Take care.
Chris Hallsworth
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On 07/06/2011 13:19, Tristram Llewellyn wrote:
> I would add that if you can use the Windows 7 Upgrader advisor you might get
> some advanced warning about whether an application is going to have problems
> with Windows 7.0 as well.
>
> You must also bear in mind that if you are a JAWS Standard user there is a
> cost to upgrading to a Professional or Ultimate edition of Windows, also
> there is a cost in memory for virtualising in XP as well and depending on the
> app and how often you need it there issues of proportion.
>
> Having said that generally most 32 bit apps run a 64 bit space, those that
> make direct use of drivers however will have issues and would need to be
> 64bit compliant. This is where my opener of the upgrade advisor can be
> helpful.
>
> If you have checked out that your software is compatible or have measures
> potentially in place going 64bit is not an issue these days.
>
> Regards.
>
> Tristram Llewellyn
> Technical Support
> Sight and Sound Technology
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> George Bell
> Sent: 07 June 2011 12:42
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: 64 bit systems
>
> Hi Mark,
>
> Many 32 bit applications will run on a 64 bit machine. I can attest
> to that here.
>
> However, and it is a big "HOWEVER", there are two caveats.
>
> 1) Accept that some more recent applications will just not run on
> Windows 7, although these usually tend to be in the minority, and
> often where the developer had specifically designed it that way - thus
> forcing you to pay for an upgrade! (British Telecom / Nortel are you
> listening?)
>
> 2) To cover yourself, try to get the Professional or Ultimate version
> of Windows 7. This includes an XP Mode, which is not in the Home
> version. This gives you a better chance of running programs which
> previously ran in XP, but do bear in mind caveat 1 above,
>
> Otherwise you will find Windows 7 64 bit quite nippy and well worth
> it.
>
> George.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Mark Threadgold
> Sent: 07 June 2011 12:18
> To: AccessUK List
> Subject: [access-uk] 64 bit systems
>
> Hi all.
>
> I'm considering a new laptop and going down the full 64 bit route.
>
> Having just spoken to a tech support chap, I was told that you can run
> 32 bit applications on a full 64 bit machine with 64 bit win7 on it.
>
> I seem to remember a post last week contradicting this advice, so what
> is the actual answer to this, please?
>
> Can 32 bit applications be run on a full 64 bit system or not?
>
> Are there any other pitfalls to watch out for by going 64 bit
> windows7? Any makes to recommend or avoid?
>
> Regards,
>
> Mark Threadgold
>
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