And one of the other issues with 'sequences' and 'simple questions' is that
they would not necessarily be particularly useable by people with learning
difficulties or who lacked certain cultural/linguistic knowledge. They
might well be able to fill in a simple registration form requesting personal
details, but a 'question' situation might be difficult.
James
----- Original Message -----
From: "Graham Page" <gpage@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 6:06 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: A verification graphic solution perhaps?
Justin, rather than getting bogged down too much in this one, do you have any proof that word verification has not reduced spam or are you just talking in terms of how we all still get loads of spam anyway?
I only ask because if what you say is correct then clearly word verification
is pointless but it may be that spam would have increased more alarmingly
than it has already if it had not been for word verification. In short, if
you can provide evidence for this asertion that would be useful.
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Justin R" <mypc128@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 4:46 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: A verification graphic solution perhaps?
I totally agree with Vince here. I don't understand why we are making
suggestions, trying to find ways around something that no one actually needs
and, shouldn't be happening anyway. Word verification systems haven't done
a thing to reduce spammers activities yet, the companies still insist on
using them. Then, here's the BBC jumping on the bandwagen.
I just seems a lot of hassle to me, all this word verification and, the suggestion to make the process accessible to us. When you wanna join something, I want to do it hassle free, that is, fill in the form and away you go.
I was under the impression that with technology, life was supposed to be easier, more productive and super fast. Hmmm.. with things like word verification, it sort of makes a mockery of all that.
I really think it's high time word verification was consigned to the dustbin
and go back to the drawing board, right back at the beginning to think of a
more effective, accessible and hassle free way of joining services without
making it easy for spammers to abuse.
Mind you, nothing is full proof, whatever is implemented.
Justin
----- Original Message ----- From: "Vince Thacker" <vince@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 2:34 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: A verification graphic solution perhaps?
Hi, all,
I'm sorry, I don't find any of this acceptble. Increasingly you need to get past captchas to do trivial things such as sending a web mail or joining a list such as this (not that Freelists causes me any grief at all).
Non-disabled people don't have to worry about any of it, and I want the same worry free existence.
I don't want the likes of Yahoo (for example) having my phone number when I don't know what the consequences might be. How many junk phone calls am I going to get? Does their automated system behave itself with my phone (the Employment Service, sorry Jobcentre Plus, system made my phone and modem completely seize up after they phoned me). Would these providers bothers with me if I'm outside the U S anyway? And what unearthly time of night would all the phones start lighting up?
Not only that, but I notice these word verifications haven't stopped the spammers from doing their usual stuff, so why all the hassle?
Some of the audio alternatives to captchas work fine for me, though I can't say which ones off the top of my head. Because it has to be distorted audio to stop speech recognition breaking the system, their is room for error, of course.
Goodeness knows what you're supposed to do if you're deaf-blind. Still, I feel it's about time these zillion-dollar corporations sorted out their act - I as an ignorant individual can't solve it all.
Vince.
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